Wednesday Open Forum – December 22, 2010

   Morning Honey Trail.

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Good to see you this beautiful day! Blessings.

163 Responses to Wednesday Open Forum – December 22, 2010

  1. Pat P says:

    I don ‘t know who suggested yesterday’s post (Frankly ….), but it was a real hit! Thanks Mots for getting it started. Just what we needed at this stressful time of the year.

  2. French reader says:

    The post with pictures was great !

    Also, I have been enjoying sites showing flash mob singing Christmas Carols on YouTube, for instance at Orlando Airport :

  3. JRD says:

    The war we are presently engaged in is of a spiritual nature. It is extremely difficult to walk around with ” holly in your heart” and exhibit “peace on earth good will toward men” with the cretins who presently occupy the political class in this country. I find it unconscionable that for 2 years in a row these snakes in the grass have attempted to pass legislation while the rest of us are busy celebrating with our families, administering to the poor and afflicted, letting those who defend us know they are appreciated and, otherwise trying to “make the season bright.” It’s awfully hard to not say, “God forgive me but a pox on all of them!” In the beginning of November we smacked them all right between the eyes and told them, “NO MAS” and yet they continue to show us the finger. I can’t wait for Lt. Col. Allen West to get to DC.

    I wasn’t able to check in yesterday and am just getting caught up. Thanks for that post. I very much needed the laughs. I took both of my little pooches to an old age home yesterday to visit with the old folks. These old guys just love my little dogs who give them so much love and tenderness.

    My little guy Francesco is adapting to his blindness. It’s amazing how intelligent and independent this little guy is. The total antithesis of Affirmative Action O-Dumb-O to say the least. Francesco’s idea of socialism is interacting with people and redistributing the love not wealth. Every time I can’t find him this is where he is.

    Just in case I am not able to check in again I wanted to wish every single one of you a very blessed and merry Christmas. I thank the Lord for bringing us all together. You have all given me comfort and joy!

    • AFinch says:

      Thanks for the update on little Francesco.

    • AFinch says:

      Oh, and I didn’t get around to posting my celebrity look-alike for you yesterday. We know you’re Italian and another reader told us you are gorgeous. Who else is there but:

    • emmajeri1010 says:

      You’ve said it well in terms of our experience within the larger picture. It truly is as though they are living an alternate reality (or we are). Ugly disconnects that they are imposing on our nation. And that connects to the thought I have this morning after reading this little piece from American Thinker.

      On the face of it, this blog piece should be an encouragement to Americans who want our nation to survive and thrive. However, in the sum of things, part of me just wants to sit down and cry, and say, “So?” Glance at a couple of the other blog pieces on AT. Why did the Republicans cave in a lame duck Congress, cave to people who are despised by most Americans? Since they felt compelled to do that, for whatever reason, why should we believe things will be any different even if Republicans have a 90-10 advantage in the Senate? Even if they had an 82% advantage in the House? Principles aren’t worth the letters it takes to spell the word if they aren’t acted on within a given context. All the flashbangs in the world won’t protect our nation if the military doesn’t pull the trigger when the sun rises on the day of battle.

      We are being inundated by endless pieces of information by both the right and the left…so? Apparently we aren’t yet angry enough. Apparently we still have found the right buttons to push for our nation’s survival. Apparently we haven’t yet put the fear of God into our ARs (that stands for Alleged Representatives) in Congress. A cancer diagnosis is of little help if the patient can’t get to the facility that provides the treatment. And getting to the facility that provides the treatment won’t be of much use if the equipment isn’t in usable condition and the staff are sort of in favor of cancer when push comes to shove.

      • yomotley says:

        We need to start seeing through the lens of, “Is this a crime?” and not through, “It is politics”. The answer to each requires totally different responses.

        • But who will step up and say this is a crime? Who is going to stop this, we’ve seen over and over the boundaries being stepped over but no one is doing a damn thing!! It all reminds me so much of a my divorce, first one in with the lie wins and if you say something enough times you will be forced to believe it. I feel so violated by this administration and this congress. AND NO ONE IS STOPPING IT!!

          • I meant if something is said to you enough times! It’s late, I’ve had a whole day of photo-shopping and my eyes aren’t gonna proof read for me, they say enough is enough! I need a better camera, or better photo skills!

      • NeeNee says:

        “A cancer diagnosis is of little help if the patient can’t get to the facility that provides the treatment. And getting to the facility that provides the treatment won’t be of much use if the equipment isn’t in usable condition and the staff are sort of in favor of cancer when push comes to shove.”

        Excellent analogy, Emma. I, too, am mystified as to why the repubs didn’t sink their teeth into this one. Do they perhaps think they will just vote to repeal? It’s kind of like parents who never discipline their children as toddlers, thinking they will grow out of it; or they’ll wait until they’re older and can understand discipline better. In the meantime, little Frankensteins have been created and the parenting task will be twice as difficult because they waited.

      • sylvansylph says:

        I, too, have been increasingly frustrated and angry at the RINO Republicans who continue to endorse the pernicious agenda of this lame duck Congress. It seems no one’s word is worth anything anymore. It is becoming more apparent to anyone with eyes to see that we are indeed fighting a spiritual battle for the heart of this once-great country. A spiritual battle is not won with carnal weapons…we ought to remember that the fervent effectual prayer of a righteous man availeth much. Could we not unite our hearts at a set time each week to lift up our beleagered nation before God and to entreat Him to intervene before it implodes?

        • emmajeri1010 says:

          In spite of my spurt of cynicism on this thread, I have been persuaded for many weeks now that the things that have already happening (including the wave of expression in the election) are actually a response of God to the cries of His people over the last 18-24 months. If it were not for His mercy and intervention, we would not be where it are.

          Your comments remind me (as I pull myself a wee bit together) that faith does not make the journey unnecessary, but it makes it possible. If you read (all of!) Psalm 18, there is a clear pattern of 1) crying out to God; 2) God responding; 3) God providing wherewithal for the battle and then, 4) the psalmist going into battle. v. 34: “He teaches my hands to make war so that my arms can bend a bow of bronze.” vv. 7-19 list all the things that GOD did in response to the Psalmist’s prayer, but none of those things made preparation for (v. 34) and participation in (v. 37) the battle unnecessary. It is a spiritual battle. We will fight. We learn to fight better. And we will keep SPEAKING UP and SPEAKING TO ONE ANOTHER….

          • zmalfoy says:

            Um, this really hit me, because of something that’s happened in the past few days in my personal life.

            Yesterday, I asked you all to pray for a friend who had miscarried. I was able to talke to her properly last night– she hadn’t even known she was pregnant until the miscarrage. Everyone was shocked, because until that happened, it had been the concensus (settled science?) that she was completely infertile due to various medical problems. All the docs were convinced that she absolutely, positively, could not get pregnant.

            However, in the past six months, she got horribly ill, to the point of needing a type of chemo (even though it wasn’t cancer as such), some manner of platelet infusions, and the docs had even considered uterine ablation, though in the end they didn’t. Looking back as we discussed last night, we considered that it seemed as though her body had done a reset– all the old, beat up cells tossed out and shiney new ones put in place. The pregnancy alone was a miracle– the miscarrage simply happened because the reset wasn’t finished.

            I told her that her little guy (or gal) clearly couldn’t wait to have her as a Mom, and had gotten impatient, and the Lord had had to call him back because her body wasn’t quite ready yet. We told her we’d pray for Him to reassign the little guy when the time was right.

            What you wrote brought that to mind– that all this angst and tribulation is actually a sign of things going right, things bucking the stream of badness, causing turbulance as everything is turned around, topsy-turvy. All this unease, the desperation of the kamikaze congress, our loss of complacency and our irritation/anger/mouth-frothing-rage is a sign that, underneath, in the heart of America, something wondrous is happening.

            America’s body is going through a reset right now. It kinda sucks, at the moment, as we’re fighting to expel the toxins and cancerous cells– but in the end, we’ll feel a lot better. We just have to make sure we follow through to the finish– getting rid of most cancer cells only allows it to return. All the cancer must be expelled.

            • emmajeri1010 says:

              This is why I love these conversations….together we can improve our focus.

            • JRD says:

              That was uplifting, thank you. I also love how you consoled your friend. It was very touching. That’s why I love this site. The people here are beautiful inside and out.

            • Menagerie says:

              How blessed to have a friend like you. Obviously God answers our prayers before they are even spoken sometimes. He doesn’t wait for us. We have been praying for your friend and her very precious babe and He sent you with wonderful words of comfort and faith to share this time with her.

              I also with to thank you, zmalfoy, for those words. My daughter in law lost a baby a few month ago. She also did not know she was pregnant, so when she found out, she also found out that she was losing it. Very rough roller coaster ride for both her and my son. My first concern is for them, but I often think of my first grandchild in heaven. You have given me comfort too.

          • Menagerie says:

            Emma, what a powerful lesson and reminder you have given us. As much as we know better, how many times do we pray and wait for God to “fix it”? I’m guilty, and sometimes I don’t even comprehend that.

            • emmajeri1010 says:

              Maybe we need a book report corner….I’m just reading John Piper’s “The Roots of Endurance” and one of his contextual points in the opening pages is that Christians have gotten accustomed to hiding from stress (and spending all of their energy in coping) instead of running to the need or (in our discussion here) to the battle.

              And “the need” is NOT forever the idea of paying somebody else’s bills, for cryin’ out loud! The need right now in our nation is a knock-down, drag-out, principled FIGHT in the arena of ideas. The public arena has been left to the loudmouth leftists for about 35 years too long. We’re still getting up to speed.

              But just think of the contrast between the public conversations today (whether internet or in the post office) and 2 years ago!! No wonder they’re freaked out. They should have talked to Tojo before they woke us up.

          • Mrs Compton says:

            But why is God letting this douchebag win anything? Now he’s the effing comeback kid!

            • emmajeri1010 says:

              There’s a theological debate that we probably shouldn’t try to hold in this forum~~the free will of man “vs” the sovereignty of God. (I put the “vs” in quotes because it’s not either/or: it’s both/and).

              God does not control man’s thoughts or behaviors. Ps. 115:3 says, “Our God is in the heavens and He does whatever He pleases.” And Joshua 24:14 says “Choose you this day whom you will serve…”

              We have many folks with foundations of Judeo-Christian faith on this site, with varieties of traditions and expression.
              Our general enjoyment of that reality is a fine thing. However, even attempting to discuss in this forum what you may have intended as a rhetorical question (re the douchebag and the God of the universe) would probably not work out stupendously….:)

            • GracieD says:

              Only for the Progressives!

    • emmajeri1010 says:

      What a cute, cute, cute little dog. Isn’t it amazing that you are the person libs love to hate: “You just want everything for yourself… don’t care about anybody…blahblahblah….” and of course when they call to tell you that, you’re not there to answer the phone, because you’re off at the home with your little dogs for the elderly to cuddle and talk to and remember their own little dogs. Thanks for sharing that. Makes my eyes leak. Merry Christmas to the doggies and their master.

      • emmajeri1010 says:

        …to the doggies and their mistress….I’m another one that is gender-challenged when it comes to thread ids. The Sophia Loren lookalike and your response helped me figure it out. Duh.

        I’ve always been under the impression that she’s a class act in her interactions with folks. Sounds like she surely was in your contact. That’s fun.

    • Ad rem says:

      Buon Natale a lei e Francesco!

  4. ZurichMike says:

    I want to share a photo. How do I do that?

    • AFinch says:

      There are probably other options, but one is to email it to Motley at She or one of us can then upload it and post it here.

    • yomotley says:

      Sometimes photos do not email well to me — different operating system than most.

      If pic is on web, right button click, press “View Image”. The image should come up in the top left of a blank page, copy the URL in the top browser bar, paste into your comment.

      If the pic is from your computer there is, I believe photo bucket or others that you upload to web to get an URL. Try googling “assigning URL to image on computer”

  5. ZMalfoy says:

    Ohayo Honies! ;)

    Here on my short coffee break, head still swelled from the picture thread of yesterday. (We Malfoys are quite weak in the face of ego stroking. It’s genetics, so it’s not our fault.)

    Got the internets and telly hooked up yesterday, so my withdrawal symptoms are starting to fade. The NCIS marathon on USA really helped.

    Here’s some good news for you, to lighten the billowing storm clouds of ungodliness issuing forth from the city just south of here:

    Thief Returns Baby Jesus:

    Because, . . . can you imagine looking at that pile of stolen goods, and little Baby Jesus on top, innocent eyes staring at you, following you around the room . . . and then the little voice starts up, so gentle and reasonable

    ” . . . Hey, is this really what you wanted with your life? Is this really who you want to be? The guy who stole lawn equipment and The Baby Jesus? Really? . . . ‘Cuz that’s pretty lame, man. . . just sayin’ . . .”

  6. yomotley says:

    Hugh Jidette for President. Funny vids on the “campaign” site. (It is not required to fill in your name and other info. Scroll down further on page to vids.)

  7. Shalini says:

    Sometime back I mentioned an Indian newspaper which so pissed me off with it’s attitude towards Palin. I wrote to them and they didn’t publish it (which I expected anyway!).

    Anyway, today that paper seems to be brimming with pride that Assange praised them or something. I mean, seriously?

    And… he was like, “Ohhhhhh… you’ve got lots of potential. See all that corruption?? Joy!!”. Ugh! Of course, the Indian bureaucrats are as corrupt as they come but ironically TOI happens to be one of the newspapers which was accused of dishonesty when India’s most recent scandal broke out. It involved lots of prominent media people and ever since the media credibility has made a transformation from barely there to non-existent. Sigh!

    On a happier note, it’s ‘Merry Christmas’ almost everywhere here. Even in the local channels (err… I only watch the local cartoon channel!) they air Christmas carols in between ad breaks. Makes me smile. I know they don’t really mean it. But Christmas carols always cheers you up. And there was a Christmas article in another local newspaper which didn’t talk only about Santa and other stuff. It was basically about which man in the Christmas story did famous local men wanted to be. People mentioned Santa and Grinch. But someone mentioned St. Joseph and that’s a first. I was so pleased. :) Nobody wanted to be Jesus because well He’s God and no one thought they could take His place. I live in one of the better places in my country (for a Christian, I mean) and I am grateful!

  8. Auntie Lib says:

    Good morning, Honeys!

    Today’s the last day before we set off for Portland to spend Christmas with our youngest and her family. Lots of little details – bank, lunch with BFF, finishing touch on Christmas craft presents, baths for puppies, “once over” cleaning so I don’t leave the house in a mess, and finally packing and loading the car. Have I forgotten anything? Probably.

    Everyone have a great day! I’ll check in tonight before turning into a pumpkin.

  9. AFinch says:

    Here’s a nice article debunking the faux outrage over “republicans’ refusal” to pass the bill providing aid to 9/11 first responders:

    I’m still trying to figure out how this can be placed solely at republicans’ feet when they’re still in the minority. But they should proudly take credit for it nonetheless.

  10. PhillyCon says:

    Since you are the resident foreign policy expert (or anyone else for that matter who knows something about Iran) at honey trail, please, if you can, critique this post for me. What’s your take on Jazz Shaw’s arguments? I know he’s written various anti-Palin pieces before, so I am tempted to just dismiss it as such.

    Its seems if there’s an article with a Sarah Palin byline on it, this automatically qualifies for condescension and snarkiness. Maybe if Romney or Pawlenty wrote a similar op-ed, no one would care or respond?

    • Amsterdam Expat says:

      You know, if anyone else had penned that op-ed piece and Mr. Jazz had written this in response, he’d be laughed off the court. But it was Palin who wrote it, and as we all have seen, different rules are applied …

      For someone who condemns rhetorical excess, he indulges in quite a bit himself — employing various low strategems. Just look at his second point: “Saying our sanctions should be “tougher” and have “more teeth” doesn’t do any good as long as so many other key players don’t go along with them.” He means to insinuate that she’s advocating unilateral action on our part to enforce some other tougher set of sanctions — whereas any fair or honest reading of her text would note that in this connection she’s talking about intensive American pressure to bring the UN, or as an alternative the G-8 group, to approve further sanctions of the kind she mentions, sanctions that would be of course also “ours.” Now, isn’t that a rhetorical trick utilized offensively in a war against SP?

      The idea broached in his third point is so crude as to leave me doubting that he could mean it seriously. (But he reiterates it in a later paragraph: “Either they will need to be taken down my [sic] military incursion or the Iranian people – who frequently don’t like America much more than they like their current leaders – will take matters in their [shouldn’t he write, “its”?] own hands and create a new government which will hopefully be easier to deal with.”) Has he not heard of e.g. the Stuxnet virus — to cite only one means of undermining the regime there and its plans? As for supporting the opposition forces in Iran (though of course many are out of the country in exile while remaining involved), there are many ways of helping them to depose the regime short of actually invading the country. Cf. Michael Ledeen’s many articles on this subject — SP’s brief summary of how to stand with the Iranian people is in line with ML’s suggestions on this topic.

      I was hoping that the other piece (at the site “Outside the Beltway,” which I’m not familiar with, and don’t care to be, if writings of this level are typical of it) which this one referred to would be somewhat better put together, but alas, it was merely more verbose. The same silly points were on parade, in exactly the same sequence.

      Next time he ought to show a little more originality — improvise some. And please, he should do something about his sloppy fingerwork.

      It’s not exactly practice hour at music camp, Jazz — and whoever it is whose score you’re following — you’re gonna have to do better.

    • Amsterdam Expat says:

      Philly, also have a look at the comments at the post at Hot Air — this Jazz composition isn’t going over too well with that audience …

      • PhillyCon says:

        Thanks for responding in such a detailed post. Exactly right on point re: Stuxnet virus. I also question his assertion that the Iranian people “hate” America … hasn’t it been demonstrated the people, majority of whom are under 25, are pro-American to some degree?

        I did wander over to HA, … a poster quoted, “Tear down this wall, Mr. Gorbachev”, as rhetoric that “Jazz Shaw” would have probably objected to back in the day.

  11. TXMom says:

    The campaign to regulate the Internet was funded by a who’s who of Marxist Leftie foundations. “So the ‘media reform’ movement paid for research that backed its views, paid activists to promote the research, saw its allies installed in the FCC and other key agencies, and paid for the FCC research that evaluated the research they had already paid for. Now they have their policy. That’s quite a coup.”

  12. Kristi says:

    Hello all!

    I have a busy day of telling people they are losing their home! I have already delivered the bad news to a local pub here (who knew even bars are having a hard time)
    … now off to ruin some more peoples Christmas.

    Then.. ahhhh… I am done until after Christmas!

    Just a little bit of shopping to get done and I can relax!

    Oh.. I bought a Tea Party patriots sweatshirt… and I wore it yesterday and got lots of smiles from strangers.

  13. Kristi says:

    Just read this HERO’s story over at Ace.

    There is info on how to send him a card. I just passed this around to all my friends and family.. Would be great to flood this HERO with well wishes.

    What a hero!

  14. Kristi says:

    To All My Democrat Friends

    Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2011 but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the Western Hemisphere . Also, this wish is made without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wishes.

    To My Republican Friends

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

    • sundancecracker says:

    • AFinch says:

      I spent the past two days traveling through the midwest. Each time I had an interaction with a stranger–the baggage handler, TSA agent, flight attendant, cab driver, hotel worker, etc.–I made a point of wishing them a Merry Christmas, not a Happy Holiday. And you know what? Not one person showed anger or offense. In fact, my greeting was, without exception, returned with robust Merry Christmases.

      When I checked my office email last night, I had a message from a client to whom I had sent a generic “Seasons Greetings” card that my office supplies each year. But in each of my cards, I had handwritten Merry Christmas. This client had written to express her delight at receiving CHRISTMAS wishes.

      Say it with me loudly and proudly: Merry Christmas.

      • Menagerie says:

        Merry Christmas. I am very happy to say that not only have I been having a great time and getting a good response wishing people a Merry Christmas, but lots of people I am encountering have been doing the same. Of course, this is still the Bible Belt and in this area most people are not politically correct, especially during the holidays. You go, hillbilly redneck Godfreaks!

      • yomotley says:

        I have found big smiles with, “Have a Blessed Christmas!”
        (Tht is bless – ed, not blest)

      • PhillyCon says:

        Funny you say that AFinch, cuz my MIL’s big schtick yesterday was how she says “Merry Christmas” to every random person she can think of.

        She even made a stink in the post office b/c there was no Merry Christmas display. Everyone around her agreed.

      • JRD says:

        Good for you. I also make it a point to wish people a Merry Christmas and I have always gotten the same reaction.

        • Wraith says:

          Can you all believe how a few thin-skinned Leftists have made America afraid to say “Merry Christmas?” How many of you have held your tongues, afraid that someone might take offense?

          Even before my coming to faith, I’d had never been a jerk to anyone saying “Merry Christmas.” I didn’t believe, but they did, and that was fine with me.

          If someone throws a fit at your expression of faith and joy, they’re the ones with the problem, not you. Say it loud and proud–MERRY CHRISTMAS!

          And God bless us, every one.

          • I’m Jewish and even I’m going around wishing everyone a Merry Christmas. I love it when a checker says Happy Holidays and I’ll say Merry Christmas back and you get a big ol smile and a Merry Christmas back.

            And NO, I don’t feel threatened by Christmas trees!! I enjoy them!

          • Ting says:

            It is just ridiculous how people claim to be offended by the good wishes others offer to them. Just because a blessing is offered does not meant that the blessing has to be accepted by those who do not believe in it. They don’t have to do or say a thing in order to reject it, and it would be nice for them to be gracious.

          • GracieD says:

            I agree with your opinion, Wraith. Political correctness is killing America. My mon used to say that I ” am not afraid of the Devil himself, and would not hesitate to tell him about himself if it crossed my mind to do so”. Mama was right, I say Merry Christmas to everyone, what they do with it is their issue, not mine!

            Don’t get me wrong, I do not intentionally say things to upset people, I simply say what is on my mind.

    • Mrs Compton says:

      Oh that brought a smile to my face!

  15. sundancecracker says:

    OK, Mike Huckabee is officially heretofore designated as a “PROGRESSIVE” !!!

    Sorry, Huckabee fans but this “centrist Republican” has just lost all credibility with this position…….

    …………. Potential GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee says Sarah Palin’s wrong and Michelle Obama’s right, at least when it comes to the first lady’s push to combat childhood obesity.

    “With all due respect to my colleague and friend Sarah Palin, I think she’s misunderstood what Michelle Obama is trying to do,” the former Arkansas governor said Tuesday on the “Curtis Sliwa Show.”

    Michelle Obama has pushed several initiatives to encourage kids to exercise and eat well, including advocating for the passage of the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act, which President Barack Obama signed into law last week.
    (full story below)

    Sorry Mike, government has no business meddling in what we eat, when we eat, how we eat, or how much we eat. This is a fundamental “liberty” position. If you think that legislating and passing laws/rules surrounding the establishment of food consumption is within the juristiction of “Federal Government” you are a fool. And worse than a fool, you are a PROGRESSIVE.

    Consider yourself relegated to the land of misguided, dysfunctional, irrelevent politicians.

    • PhillyCon says:

      You may recall Ann Coulter called Huckabee a “pro-life liberal.” Weren’t many of his economic policies as Gov., liberal?

    • emmajeri1010 says:


    • AFinch says:

      Leaving aside for a moment the question of the proper role of government, does anyone else find it ironic that we have Michelle Obama and Mike Huckabee lined up against Sarah Palin on the issue of healthy lifestyle? I mean, seriously. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who is best qualified in that group to talk about healthy living.

      • Menagerie says:

        Watch one episode of her show and try to immagine any politician, let alone the First Twinkie Police doing that, any of that. Ok, maybe riding in the RV.

    • TNWAHM says:

      I have to confess. I was a Huckabee supporter in 2008. I didn’t like Romeny ~like him even less now~ and certainly didn’t like McCain. I was hoping for a match-up between Hillary and Huckabee. Since you aren’t from AR, I’ll give you a little background. When Slick Willy left the governorship in AR to move to the WH, the lt. gov. was a man named Jim Guy Tucker. He went from the governorship in AR to prison ~Slick Willie should have gone with him.~ Mike Huckabee was the lt. governor, so he became governor at that time.

      Looking back, I think that McCain was the best choice we had for a nominee. I don’t think that any Republican could have beated BO in 2008, but McCain gave us Sarah Palin. I doubt either Romney or Huckabee would have given us someone like Palin as VP. Imagine what the last 2 years would have been like w/o Palin? Thank you Senator McCain!

  16. Thomas Hooker says:

    Obamacare supporters like the UK NHS model. I had heard their cancer survival rates were lower, but didn’t have a source. Here is a source:

  17. emmajeri1010 says:

    Hey, people, Mark Steyn is holding forth on Rush’s time slot today….he just got done explaining all the trouble Mary and Joseph would have been in in New York because it’s illegal there to rent out a stable for human use….and Change of Use/Livestock forms would have had to be submitted, etc… his punch line was that libs’ tender-care and total-oversight mentality would have resulted in Jesus being born under an overpass on I-95.

    • zmalfoy says:

      Well, that would have made it easier for the 3 Wise People of No Particular Gender, Ethnicity, Pasttime or Social Rank to find them, right?

      “And behold, they followed to star, until it came to rest over exit 16E, toward Hoboken . . .”


  18. sundancecracker says:

    Nanny-State-Progressive Story ALERT !!! Warning splodey head story.

    “All I want for Christmas is free Obama money!”
    From “Showing her Georgia Power bills in the one warm room of her home, Raymeica Kelly explains how her mother, sister and herself were turned away from the Energy Assistance Program on Wednesday morning after standing in line for four hours. All three complained that the system the Macon-Bibb County Economic Opportunity Council uses to give out the assistance needs improving.”

    Read caption under picture. Nuf’ said !

  19. sundancecracker says:

    These are the same people who keep Barwney Fwank in office.

    No wonder. Aaaaaaargh…. I hate dislike immensely progressives !!!!

  20. Felix says:

    Hi Guys, The very pretty and sweet AliRose contacted me on FaceBook. It’s so great to see so many of you on this site. I had wondered what happened. I guess, now I know!

    Merry Christmas to all of you!

  21. yomotley says:

    Welcome Felix! Welcome, Welcome, WELCOME!

  22. PhillyCon says:

    Our pal Lindsey never ceases to amaze,

    Dan Riehl:
    “If Reid Ate The GOP’s Lunch, Graham And Company Packed It For Him

    “What nerve given the behavior of these same Republicans, including Graham, during the Tea Party insurgence during 2010. Graham was one of the movement’s chief critics. Suddenly, Graham has woken up to the fact that the GOP lacks a spine? Where was he and where were they when Murkowski was running as an Independent in Alaska? Where were they on Crist in Florida before he went Independent and Grayson in Kentucky? After years of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell how weak the GOP Senate has been, suddenly Graham sees the light? Sell it somewhere else, Lindsey. If the GOP Senate is spineless, you certainly haven’t been much of a vertebrae over the years.”

  23. TXMom says:

    Senate ratifies START treaty, 71 to 26.. GOP caved. Harry Reid has all his lame ducks in a row….Now they are voting on judicial nominations. God help us.

    • TXMom says:

      13 Republicans voted for START – Alexander TN, Bennett UT, Brown MA, Cochran MS, Collins ME, Corker TN, Gregg NH. Isakson GA, Johanns NE, Lugar IN, Murkowski AK, Snowe ME and Voinovich OH; no Democrats voted ‘No’

      • Menagerie says:

        With all that I am, I loathe my senator Johnny Isaakson.

        • Menagerie says:

          Oops, spelled his name wrong. Just emailed him a very nice (I think) congratulatory message:

          Hey, just read you voted for START. Combined with your voting history, it’s obvious you are not even a RINO. When did you join the deomocrats in name as well as votes? I’d have sent you a card if you had announced it, instead of just voting it. May be another six years, but I’ll be sending you a message with my vote.

          Very sincerely,
          P.M., who has never once had a return phone call or email addressing my questions from my duly elected senator.

      • Amsterdam Expat says:

        This rubbish needs to be swept out — and in fact the whole sorry lot of them ought to be challenged in the next primary.

        Most members of this accursed Congress will enter American history in infamy.

      • sundancecracker says:

  24. NeeNee says:

    About once a week I click on the HB link.

    Today, KDJ is really shooting himself in the foot, IMO.
    It must be a slow day for blog inspiration, as he
    seizes upon this:

    “Running Mike Pence in 2012 is one of the dumbest things the GOP could do…and after Mittens Romney, it’s exactly what the Cocktail Party GOP establishment WANTS to do.

    “He’s a bland, older, white-haired, pasty-faced, establishment guy…just like McCain!”

    Fortunately, the newbies over there take him by the hand
    and patiently explain that Pence is NOT a liberal RINO.

    And that he would make a good Presidential candidate.
    Many Indiana posters over there explain that he should
    run for governor of Indiana first to get more experience.

    • emmajeri1010 says:

      And he doesn’t comment in return or refute their points.

    • Kristi says:

      OMG.. I just read that.

      I am so glad we have a site now. I am so sick of running down every single candidate.

      Mike Pence is a great guy who is going to run for Governor of Indiana. He will make a great Governor.
      What if Palin doesnt run or doesnt win the nomination?
      Am I staying home on election day.. NO.
      Ugh.. I am personally going to vote for and be completely behind whoever is the nominee. I remember all the running down John McCain stuff by Republicans and I think it hurt us .. bad. (Hannity) Sure McCain wasn’t the most conservative but he was our candidate. We would be a lot better off with him and Palin in the white house.

  25. sundancecracker says:

    After initially blaming Diane Sawyer and an “ambiguous” question for National Intelligence Director James Clapper’s inability to answer a question on recent UK terror arrests, the White House has now admitted that Clapper was not briefed on the issue prior to the interview.

    The arrests had taken place the morning of the interview, and had been popular news on all the major networks. Still, Clapper had no idea about them when Sawyer asked him about their implications for the U.S.

    “Director Clapper had not yet been briefed on the arrests in the United Kingdom at the time of this interview taping,” said ODNI spokeswoman Jamie Smith in a statement.

    She explained that Clapper had been “working throughout the day on important intelligence matters, including monitoring military and political developments on the Korean Peninsula, providing answers to questions concerning the ratification of the START nuclear treaty, and other classified issues. He wasn‘t immediately briefed on London because it didn’t appear to have a homeland nexus and there was no immediate action by the DNI required. Nevertheless, he should have been briefed on the arrests, and steps have been taken to ensure that he is in the future. The intelligence community as a whole was fully aware of this development and tracking it closely.”
    (Keep Reading)

  26. sundancecracker says:

    Midway through Philip Rucker and Paul Kane’s story about Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s transition to minority leader comes an interesting bit of news. The California Democrat, vilified by Republicans in the last election, has turned to director Steven Spielberg for help rebranding House Democrats.

    Lawmakers say she is consulting marketing experts about building a stronger brand. The most prominent of her new whisperers is Steven Spielberg, the Hollywood director whose films have been works of branding genius. Lawmakers said Spielberg has not reported to Pelosi with a recommendation.

    Spielberg has been a power player in Democratic politics for years, working on everything from President Bill Clinton’s millennial celebrations to the 2008 Democratic National Convention. He endorsed Hillary Clinton in the last presidential race, but since then he’s helped fundraise for President Obama.

    But, the news that he is advising the leading Democrat in the House on building a strong party brand would seem to be a different — and more expansive — role than Spielberg has played in the past.

    You Can’t Re-Brand Evil !!!

  27. sundancecracker says:

    Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) tells MSNBC that he would like the government to mandate that publicly held companies should hold board meetings once a year to decide what is just compensation for officers of the company. Frank also went beyond that and told corporations how they should spend their money and what should be accepted and what should not.

    “The way that you pay them [executives] can not be a way in which they are given an incentive to take big risks because they know if the risk pays off, they get paid extra money and if the risk blows up, they won’t lose a nickel,” Frank said, telling corporations how they should spend their money.

    Frank says there should be regulations that make it impossible for people to make money based on risks whether it makes money or not, which is the quintessential tenet of the free market.

    It should be noted that the “little guy” Rep. Frank speaks of normally doesn’t own a majority of the shares or a high percentage. Those are normally held by CEOs (sometimes given stock instead of more compensation) and other large investors.

    (Video Here)

    • JRD says:

      Will somebody please tell Bwarney Fwank that “we the people” would like the government to mandate that members of congress should hold town hall meetings once a year so that we the people can decide what is just compensation for do nothing congress cretins. We the people also want to tell congress cretins how they should spend OUR money and what should be accepted and what should not. There should be regulations that make it IMPOSSIBLE for congress cretins to spend OUR money against OUR will. Please also inform Fwank that this is the will of the “little guy” not a fat cat congress cretin.

  28. WeeWeed says:

    Y’all will be pleased to know that I’m still faster than the TX highway patrol!! Been out of touch pretty much for a couple of days, but welcome to both Felix and Lauren, and whoever else I haven’t had the connection to run up on yet!! Yeehaw! Mo’ the bettah….!! (Motz, yesterday was a hoot – reading on the trip today, oh what we could do with plotting and planning…..bwaaaahaaaaahaaaa!!!) I1st, how did court go???

  29. Pat P says:

    Don’t think this has been posted yet – digital story of the nativity.

  30. Pat P says:

    My daughter just posted on Facebook: Woman in the car next to us has Iphones in each hand, on the steering wheel, laughing with the passenger – at 70 mph! Trying out for the Darwin award?

  31. sundancecracker says:

    Two years and $3.6 trillion dollars of failure later Obama says says the economy will be his “singular focus” over the next two years.

    He says the nation is past the “crisis point” in the economy, and that he’ll now be working to bring down the jobless rate and equip the nation to compete with the rest of the world.

    Obama told reporters at a Wednesday news conference that the government needs to be a “good partner” with the private sector, in getting rid of regulations that stand in the way of innovation. But he says the government also needs to make sure consumers, workers and the environment are protected.

    What a complete incompetent fool…. a flippin fool… We have been screaming that for two years jerkoff and “now” you say you get it? NOT!

    You said the same thing in the SOU 2010…. Nuthin’

    You said the same thing after Scott Brown win 2010…… Nuthin’
    You said the same thing in Dec 2009…….. Nuthin’
    You said the same thing on Labor day 2010 in Milwakee…….. Nuthin’
    You said the same thing in May 2010 Colorado…….. Nuthin’

    You said the same thing before you left for Asia…….. Nuthin’
    You said the same thing in Allentown PA 2009…….. Nuthin’

    But this time is the really, really, triple dog, swear type of promise right?

    Sorry punk. You are clueless, in over your head, incompetent, and the single worst example of a president in modern history. Your entire progressive economic team has quit. You are an abject failure.

  32. Amsterdam Expat says:

    Meanwhile, over in The Netherlands, I’ve just learned that a new political group has formed. Details here:

    • GracieD says:

      OMG AmEx, that is a frightening thought!

      • Amsterdam Expat says:

        Yes it is — but this organization isn’t the first of its kind, there’s a pernicious one called the Arab European League with branches in Belgium and The Netherlands.

        I’ll keep an eye on this one, though.

    • Wraith says:

      I’ve been reading the Qur’an of late. (Don’t panic, I’m not converting–just expanding my knowledge base.) In many instances, Allah is referred to as ‘the Best Deceiver.’ It might be just me, but that sounds very similar to ‘the Prince of Lies.’

      I’ll leave it to y’all to determine the implications of this.

      • ZMalfoy says:

        Oh, I’m there. *makes face* It was . . . Walid Shoebat, I believe (a former palenstinian terrorist turned evangelical Christian, and Praise the Lord for that!) who pointed out at some time that the prophesies of the Mah’di and the Prophesies of the Second Coming of Jesus are almost exact mirrors of each other. In that each has a Good Entity and a Bad One, and describes both. In the prophesies of the Mad’hi, the good guy is described exactly as the Bad Guy in the Christian Prophesies, while the Bad guy of the Mah’di prophecies is described like the Good Guy of the Christian Prophesies.

        It’s eerie how it’s like the Mad’hi prophesies seem to be written by someone who read the entire Left Behind series, and then wrote down some things from the Other Point of View.

        Likewise, anyone who’s studied angelology (as I have) and then reads the hadiths concerning “Gabriel” knows that that wasn’t “Gabriel.” Whatever spoke to Muhammad, according to the Hadiths, had the speech patterns and behavior of a djinn at best. I have personal theories, but. . .

        Yeah, it’s really disturbing when you read the source docs for Islam, especially if you really know Judaica or Christianity. It’s very clear that Islam was set up in opposition to them in almost every way. But since so many have lost connection to these faiths, they don’t catch these things, or they shrug and ignore.

        John 8:44 is apt, I believe.

  33. TXMom says:

    A beautiful and encouraging post at RedState today. “And Wonders of His Love…..”

  34. NeeNee says:

    Love the Brits’ humor. Let’s hope muzzies don’t
    completely take over the country!

    Very witty play on words . . .

  35. NeeNee says:

    Guess we should be grateful the Lame Ducks
    didn’t ram Crap & Tax through.

    Speaking of that . . . great satirical video
    of Al Gore speaking out on the Sheryl Crow

    one-square toilet paper concept.

    “Another Global Warming Minute”

  36. Here is some Christmas Happy:

    One of my imaginary friends (we met years ago on a Disney forum) just posted a pic of her and hubby in Russia, holding the two toddlers they just adopted! They are officially a family, just in time for Christmas!

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