Monday Open Forum – December 13, 2010

A Politically Correct Christmas Poem

Twas the night before Christmas and Santa’s a wreck…
How to live in a world that’s politically correct?
His workers no longer would answer to “Elves”,
“Vertically Challenged” they were calling themselves.
And labor conditions at the North Pole,
were alleged by the union, to stifle the soul.

Four reindeer had vanished without much propriety,
released to the wilds, by the Humane Society.
And equal employment had made it quite clear,
that Santa had better not use just reindeer.
So Dancer and Donner, Comet and Cupid,
were replaced with 4 pigs, and you know that looked stupid!

The runners had been removed from his beautiful sleigh,
because the ruts were deemed dangerous by the EPA,
And millions of people were calling the Cops,

when they heard sled noises upon their roof tops.
Second-hand smoke from his pipe, had his workers quite frightened,
and his fur trimmed red suit was called “unenlightened”.

To show you the strangeness of today’s ebbs and flows,
Rudolf was suing over unauthorized use of his nose.
He went to Geraldo, in front of the Nation,
demanding millions in over-due workers compensation.

So…half of the reindeer were gone, and his wife
who suddenly said she’d had enough of this life,

joined a self help group, packed and left in a whiz,
demanding from now on that her title was Ms.

And as for gifts…why, he’d never had the notion
that making a choice could cause such commotion.
Nothing of leather, nothing of fur…
Which meant nothing for him or nothing for her.
Nothing to aim, Nothing to shoot,
Nothing that clamored or made lots of noise.
Nothing for just girls and nothing for just boys.

Nothing that claimed to be gender specific,
Nothing that’s warlike or non-pacifistic.

No candy or sweets…they were bad for the tooth.
Nothing that seemed to embellish upon the truth.
And fairy tales…while not yet forbidden,
were like Ken and Barbie, better off hidden,
for they raised the hackles of those psychological,
who claimed the only good gift was one ecological.

No baseball, no football…someone might get hurt,

besides – playing sports exposed kids to dirt.
Dolls were said to be sexist and should be passe.
and Nintendo would rot your entire brain away.

So Santa just stood there, disheveled and perplexed,
he just couldn’t figure out what to do next?
He tried to be merry he tried to be gay,
but you must have to be careful with that word today
His sack was quite empty, it was flat on the ground,
nothing fully acceptable was anywhere to be found.

Something special was needed, a gift that he might,
give to us all, without angering the left or the right.
A gift that would satisfy – with no indecision,
each group of people in every religion.
Every race, every hue,
everyone, everywhere…even you!
So here is that gift, it’s price beyond worth…

…..and, HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! ~ from Politically Incorrect ME!


175 Responses to Monday Open Forum – December 13, 2010

  1. AFinch says:

    Good morning Motley and all you Honeys out there! It’s a cold, snowy, blustery morning here in central Indiana.

    Gov. Pawlenty has an op/ed in today’s WSJ about public employee unions, which are a huge part of the financial mess at the state, local and federal level.

    I have not seen a lot of discussion of Pawlenty as a 2012 presidential candidate, though most people agree that he is definitely running. Although Palin is my preferred candidate, I have been impressed with Pawlenty when I’ve heard him on various radio shows. I’d like to hear from others who have seen him operate or who have studied him and his prospects more closely.

    • yomotley says:

      I don’t know about the guy for president as this is the first article I have read by him. It is great! I have a brother that lives and dies for the union and a couple of years ago I listened for almost two straight hours his “reasonings” as to why it was the only moral choice a Christian man can — to be in the union. He espoused that his commitment to the union is right up there with his marriage vows. “No man can claim to be a Christian, a follower of Christ, and NOT be a union member.” I kid you not. His thoughts were so organized and perfectly “speech” executed that I wondered if he was reading directly from a book.

      Anyways, he is in a trade union and has always been bitter, biter, about “lazy, freeloading government employees” I do wonder how he has “married” his old thoughts with now considering these hated and despised gov. employees his union brothers.

      There is not a thing to argue with in Mr. Pawlenty’s op-ed. It is noteworthy enough to copy and send to our own governors and officials.

      • AFinch says:

        It’s interesting to me how the leftists and collectivists use Christian ideals to promote their own causes so frequently–which is what I perceive from your description of your brother.

        • PhillyCon says:

          Its called “social justice.”

        • Patriot Dreamer says:

          I’ve been hearing a lot of “Jesus was a Socialist” talk all of a sudden from Leftists. I have to disagree. If Jesus were a Socialist, then he would have said to give your money to Rome and let Rome take care of the poor and needy.

          • AFinch says:

            Precisely. I heard that argument a lot during the health care debate–that conservatives were being un-Christian in denying health care to the needy. In fact, Obamacare and other statist initiatives actually deprive us of our basic humanity and the joy that comes from Christian giving.

          • PhillyCon says:

            Plus, being “forced” to “give” via taxation goes against the grain of Christian teachings. We are given free will, and thus expected to help the poor willingly, and out of love for one’s fellow man, not b/c of the gun pointed to our collective heads via the IRS.

            • Patriot Dreamer says:

              People also do not think about government waste due to bureaucracy. If you know of a poor person who needs a coat, and you give that person your coat, then there is no waste.

              If the government were to do the same thing, the government would have to pay people to process the paperwork and pretty soon you have something that looks like “Brazil”:

    • I remember way back in 2007 when a blogger who was from Pawlenty’s state kept wailing that Pawlenty was a pos; the blogger disliked him with a passion.

      • emmajeri1010 says:

        I won’t use that kind of language, but it sickens me that Pawlenty is positioning himself for the 2012 campaign. He’s Minnesota’s McCain: he won’t fight. He won’t compete. And he keeps that half smile on his face all the time….which makes it hard to take him seriously on anything. I am so sick of the apparent MN affliction of ending every statement so it sounds like a question and Pawlenty falls into that in his way of talking sometimes! So just imagine as POTUS: “Well, now, Putin has attacked New York and we have to send troops?” Sorry that’s an extreme example…but he’s been our guv for 8 years, I voted for him both times and would vote for him FOR GOV again, but not on the national scene. Please, no. He won’t win because he refuses to compete and fight in the arena of ideas. It doesn’t matter if everything he says is true: he won’t fight for it. He thinks being nice is more important than winning. (This post is also a test. I’m having internet issues.)

  2. AFinch says:

    Sometime Honey Trail Hiker has an excellent post up this morning discussing pride and self-loathing and using an example with which we’re all familiar:

    “If you want to understand why Barack Hussein Obama became the self-absorbed, narcissistic socipath that we all know and love today, it is because he had two mental choices. He could either collapse into a suicidal depression as a teen OR develop these egomaniacal traits as a defense mechanism. There is a third way, but that third way was unavailable to Little Barry because everyone around him was a raging Marxist-Communist-athiest. He could have turned to God, and been sustained and made whole by Christ’s love for him. But, alas, that didn’t happen. But it still could, and one and all should be praying fervently for his conversion. All things are possible!!!”

    Read the rest at

    • Jennifer H says:

      Yes! She is a real firecracker (talk about unafraid) and I love her perspective.

    • IAmDagny says:

      “Honey Trail Hiker.” THAT’S why my hamstrings are sore! :-)

    • yomotley says:

      Just read. Wow. This is the most concise, understandable writing on Obama I have read. Thank y ou.

      Every time I read that his mother abandoned him at ten by leaving him with grandparents, the same question crosses my mind, “How could a mother just up and leave her ten-year old child, just walk away?” Most mothers can not. God-given instincts prevent it. A hardening of the soul allows it. Then I wonder if Stanley Ann was able to do it because he was not her child. I am always left wondering this because it is hard to wrap my head around a mother walking away. This rolls around in my head and then wonder if indeed she is his mother and maybe she left him with his father. In any event, it messed him up. Bigtime. In any event it messed up the United States of America. Bigtime.

      • IAmDagny says:

        Communism kills people’s souls, including the mother-child bond. But I agree with you that he may not be Stanley Ann’s son at all. He may be “Grandpa” Stanley’s son. Jack Cashill over at makes a very, very good case for that scenario. And Obama is indeed an absolute dead-ringer for Grandpa Stanley. Decades from now, the truth about this whole mess will come out. And it is probably worse than we think. These things usually are.

        • AFinch says:

          Hey Dagny,

          I don’t want to put you on the spot, but I would love to know if you have addressed how to reconcile Randian objectivism and the Christian faith. You’re obviously a fan of Rand (an atheist) and a Christian. I know a lot of Christians and some conservatives are repulsed by her philosophy. Have you ever written on this topic?

          • IAmDagny says:

            Oh yes, many times. In a nutshell, whenever you read Rand and she is talking about “reason” or “logic”, she is actually (unwittingly) talking about Christ. John 1:1 specifically identifies Christ as “the Word”, which is “Logos” in Greek. Logos is the Greek word for “logic” and “reason”. God is, in Himself, logic and reason, and we are made in His image. The fact that humans possess the capability to reason and think logically is the attribute that makes us “made in the image of God”. Rand was so close. She knew that our ability to reason lifted us to infinite dignity, but she missed that it was Christ indwelling in our minds and giving us that “spark” of reason. She thought that human minds self-generated reason and that there was no outside Source.

            Re-read Atlas making that substitution and it will knock you on the floor.

            • AFinch says:

              Thank you! I’ve tried to make that argument before, but much less articulately. If you can link to something you’ve written, I would love to see it.

            • emmajeri1010 says:

              Hey, Dagny! Thank you for this!! I’ve read Rand and, as a Christian, I’ve never been able to connect those logic/philosophy dots so directly. I wasn’t ready to abandon her points, but it bugged me. Thanks very much.

        • violet says:

          Ann, do you have a link for the AT article by Jack Cashill? (I tried to find it myself but failed.)

  3. AFinch says:

    Maybe some of you have read this before. I hadn’t. I saw it up at as I was making my cyber rounds this morning. It was written shortly after 9/11 by a Romanian observer.

    “I watched the live broadcast and the rerun of its rerun for hours listening to the story of the guy who went down one hundred floors with a woman in a wheelchair without knowing who she was, or of the Californian hockey player, who fought with the terrorists and prevented the plane from hitting a target that would have killed other hundreds of thousands of people. How on earth were they able to bow before a fellow human? Imperceptibly, with every word and musical note, the memory of some turned into a modern myth of tragic heroes. And with every phone call, millions and millions of dollars were put in a collection aimed at rewarding not a man or a family, but a spirit which nothing can buy.”

    Even if you’ve read it before, the whole thing is worth another look here:

    • Pat P says:

      I saved this one in my 9-11 collection. Truly a beautiful editorial that makes me proud to be an American. My other favorite is the story of an airliner that landed in Gander, and the passengers who set up the scholarship fund for the community who sheltered them. It makes me cry every time.

      • Bijou says:

        Pat, I’m glad but not surprised that you know the story of our wonderful ‘Newfies’ in Gander, and how they rose to the occasion on 9/11/01. Others may not be familiar with it.

        On that awful day, many incoming westbound flights to the US were forced to land in eastern Canada. 38 planes landed in Gander, Nfld., a town of only 10,000 residents. (Their airport normally only handles 8 flights a DAY so this was quite something. Suddenly they had 7,000 ‘visitors’!) There are only 500 hotel rooms in town, so they immediately set up shelters in schools, churches, and legion halls. The locals brought these poor displaced people home-cooked meals and other necessities. They weren’t allowed to access their luggage, so the Newfies brought them clothes. Prescriptions were filled by the two local pharmacies at no charge. The Newfies did everything possible to make the best of a bad situation for their guests.

        Finally four days later, US airspace was reopened and the people were able to resume their flights home. Their hosts refused to accept a dime for their kindnesses, so the passengers of Delta flight 15 established a college scholarship fund for the students of Gander. $15,000 was pledged just on the flight home from Gander to Atlanta! I believe it’s now surpassed $1,000,000. Some of these ‘accidental tourists’ have since gone back to visit their new friends.

        Newfoundlanders are a special breed. They live on an island stuck out on the edge of the Atlantic Ocean. We Canadians call it ‘The Rock’, because the terrain is extremely rugged and the weather harsh. However, it is beautiful. Its people are the salt of the earth and we couldn’t be more proud of them.

  4. JRD says:

    The biggest threat the left sees is Governor Sarah Palin. And it’s not just the American left — the Euro-lefties hate Governor Palin in the same way they still go foaming at the mouth over Maggie Thatcher. The U.N. corruptocrats fear her already. Right now, the worldwide left is feeling a lot more scared than we think.

    (a) Palin is Reaganesque beyond any politician we have seen in two decades.
    (b) Palin is charismatic far beyond Obama’s sputtering appeal.
    (c) Sarah Palin is a Reagan-style constitutionalist.

    To the left, we are seeing a perfect replay of the historic crash of the Soviet Union. They’ve seen this movie before.

    • AFinch says:

      Thanks for the link. Hopefully AmEx, ZurichMike and Frenchie (sorry I don’t remember the exact moniker of the French Flag avatar) will weigh in with some first hand accounts.

      • Amsterdam Expat says:

        Much of salon-socialist (the European counterpart to the American limousine liberals) opinion is drawn sans phrase from whatever line it is that the New York Times happens to be spewing at this or that conjuncture. Original it is not.

        Views of Palin are a good example of this. Just days after she was chosen by McCain, in casual conversation here one already heard from people who knew nothing of her before what an awful person she was.

        But as it becomes clearer that she may well be the next Republican candidate for President, the animosity is bound to be stoked up by the European media. Whether it will take its treatment of President Bush as a model remains to be seen — it could also opt to handle her more in the way it deals with its other pet devil, Silvio Berlusconi.

    • PhillyCon says:

      Its also been noted that many vile, disgusting anti-Palin sites are based in Europe. Some on C4P speculate that the Lefty Euros do the dirty work for the US Dems that they cannot do ….

      I think many of those hateful comments on any number of Palin articles are generated in Europe, just my hunch.

    • Jennifer H says:

      I sure hope so, we have too much to lose should these people remain in power.

      • French reader says:

        I made a comment on a previous thread about Obama and Palin viewed by the french MSM.

        In short, no critics about him are allowed. As I wrote before, on national TV during the evening news at 8 pm, Bruce Willis was simply made to shut his mouth by the anchorman when he started to say that average Americans were not happy with the government.

        As for Palin, comments are not harsh enough to make her appear ridiculous, like a hick from the northern icecap ….
        I have not read anything decent about her, from neither side of the political spectrum.

  5. JRD says:

    Two African-American Democrats on Thursday announced that they were joining the Republican Party.

  6. JRD says:

    For over nine years, the Democrat Party and their media minions have regularly echoed the mantra of how horrible the Bush tax cuts were.

    Yet, just days from them expiring, two Democrat Presidents got together to tell the nation just how essential they were.

    Shortly after Obama was inaugurated, Newsweek ran a cover story proudly proclaiming, “We Are All Socialists Now!”

    Maybe next week’s issue should be a picture of Bush, Clinton, and Obama broadly smiling arm in arm under the headline, “We Are All Supply-Siders Now!”

    Clinton and Obama for Bush

    Two Democrats stump for tax cuts.

  7. Auntie Lib says:

    Morning Honeys!!! Early start today – fast trip to Kalispell with the Boss and the Big Boss. Temps are supposed to be milder, but roads are nasty. Glad I’m not driving. (It’s really hard to do with eyes tightly closed!)

    Everyone have a great day! I’ll check back tonight!

  8. JRD says:

    Wall Street Quietly Creates A Way To Profit From Homeowner Distress – Crony Capitalism At Its Finest

    Barely more than a year after a taxpayer bailout of major financial institutions, Bank of America and the hedge fund, Fortress Investment Group WHICH IS HEADED BY FORMER FANNIE MAE CHIEF ( appropriately named) DANIEL MUDD, spotted a fresh money-making opportunity – collecting the tax debts of tens of thousands of people who fall behind in paying taxes on their homes. The bank and hedge fund can add interest charges and fees, and they bundled the debts as securities for investors.

    In late May and early June, proxies for the two institutions quietly bought hundreds of millions of dollars in homeowners’ property tax debts in Florida by bidding at a series of online auctions held by county tax collectors. They didn’t use their names but donned multiple other identities, dominating the auctions and repeatedly bidding on the same parcels more than 8,000 times.

    Then, in September, Bank of America’s securities division packaged $301 million worth of the tax liens it and Fortress had acquired into bonds pitched privately to major investors. The anticipated return – estimated at between 7 to 10 percent – is possible because buyers of tax debts can assess a panoply of interest charges and other fees. When the debt goes unpaid long enough, the liens buyer can seize properties through foreclosure.

    Financial institutions, including some beneficiaries like Bank of America rescued by taxpayer dollars, are actively creating new ways to profit from the financial distress of homeowners.

  9. notamolly says:

    Morning Honeys and welcome to early winter. The global warming is pretty darn chilly (the dogs were out for a minute and ran back to bed) and i am off to work.

  10. GracieD says:

    “He grants a treasure of common sense to the honest. He is a shield to those who walk with integrity.”

    ~ Proverbs 2:7, NLT

    My BGF sent this to me this morning, and I thought it was worth sharing. I always strive to act with integrity, and I appreciate that those here do the same in my opinion. Thanks Honeys!

    • Debra says:

      GracieD –

      A really good book that I loved was “Integrity” by Cloud and Townsend. You might be interested in it. In fact, every Cloud and Townsend book I’ve read is really good.

  11. Library Countess says:

    Mornin’ all y’all… it’s wool socks and fleece-lined sneakers for the trip to work today here in central FL. Sheesh… the three puppies were snuggled in their beds even before I told them to “go to their room” (the kitchen). Of course I’d be in bed too (or under a blankey) if I didn’t have to go to work!

    Krauthammer’s latest on the tax deal… is anyone else tired to trying to explain that we’re talking about tax rates, not tax cuts? And being ignored? Facts are just so messy…

    • Pat P says:

      11 degrees here in Michigan on my way to work. Roads are sheets of ice and salt doesn’t work because of the cold. Wish I could wear sneakers instead of waterproof boots (but with Christmas socks!)
      Arrived safely at work despite a rather white knuckle 21-mile trip. Slipped sideways on a freeway ramp (while stopped) because of the slope and wind, but all is well. The trip home should be almost as bad.
      Wish I was in Florida!

      • NeeNee says:

        Weird blizzard Saturday & into Sunday here in western Iowa. Average amount of light, powdery snow accompanied by gale force winds & bitter temps. Big drift in front of the garage, but most of the sidewalks bare. ??? Crawled to church yesterday and I must say, about half of my choir members arrived for the late service. Rest of the day was spent baking sugar cookies and napping. So glad my daughters didn’t elect to stay for their grandma’s funeral . . . they would have been away from home over a week instead of three days.

      • Bijou says:

        Be careful driving home, Pat. Black ice is nasty stuff.
        We across the river also got a ton of snow and the temp is now -11°C (12°F) with a wind chill of =20°C (-4°F). Brrrrrrr!
        (I hope you have an ‘emergency kit’ in your car. Just in case.)

      • AliRose says:

        From a former Michiganian…I miss all of the ice and snow at the holidays, but you’re welcome to come down for a visit any time!

  12. Shalini says:

    I know this news is now old but I was thinking about people making fun of Palin for saying C. S. Lewis was one of her favourite authors. Apparently to them C. S. Lewis is just a children’s author and hence Sarah Palin is worthy of ridicule. Correct me if I am wrong but isn’t ‘Harry Potter’ considered children’s literature, as well? (I don’t know. I know a lot of people like HP but I haven’t read the books nor have I watched the movies, so I am not entirely sure.) Wasn’t Obama reading Harry Potter a while back? Why didn’t anybody ridicule him? Even if Sarah did mean ‘The Chronicles of Narnia’, why is reading about a teenage wizard cool and reading about kids adventures in Narnia? They only laugh because TCON has Christian undertones. There seems to no other valid reason. Sick!

    • NeeNee says:

      I think Harry Potter transcends the usual children’s audience.

      Just found this today. It’s a charming little peek into the future:

      • Debra says:

        I didn’t read Chronicles of Narnia until I was an adult. I think it is more than just children’s lit as well. I think I might have to read it again, in fact.

        • violet says:

          I was raised on the Narnia books. My mother read them to my brothers and me at bedtime, and at school my teachers read them to us at story time. In high school when I was suffering from severe depression and wondering if God loved me (or even cared), I got the Narnia books out and reread them, and they restored my dying faith. After I had kids, I tried reading the Narnia books aloud to them, but found it impossible because I kept crying all the time! (My husband had to take over the read-aloud duties.)

          I discovered Lewis’s books for grownups when I was in my late teens, and read as many of them as I could get my hands on. They are outstanding — especially “Till We Have Faces,” which is one of my favorite novels of all time, and “That Hideous Strength,” which was relevant when Lewis wrote it and is even more so now (as well as being a great story). But the Narnia books will always have a special place in my heart, and you’re right, Deb — they are definitely NOT just for children.

          The hoity-toity snobs ridiculing Sarah Palin for reading Lewis are just displaying their astonishing ignorance. What a bunch of elitist @$$ho!e$.

  13. Jennifer H says:

    Morning every one, I am catching up after a long flag football weekend tournament. I can’t believe the Obama/Clinton presser just really really unreal! Sureal even.
    I am hopeful that the tax bill does not pass and that the next congress takes it up. We voted these bufoons out of office why are they still dictating important policy?
    Ridiculous to say the least, they should just go home.

  14. Patriot Dreamer says:

    Media Creates New Palin Scandal! Sarah Accused of Bringing Hairdresser on Haiti Trip

    Bristol was her hair “stylist”!

  15. Bijou says:

    Good morning, Honeys! We are absolutely buried in snow and it’s freezing out there, but it’s a ‘winter wonderland’ and a photographer’s paradise, so I’ll be grabbing the camera and heading out there shortly.

    While making my ‘morning rounds’, I came across this from Ulsterman. It’s a very finely broken down analysis of what REALLY happened at the ‘duelling presidents’ presser the other day, and in the meeting leading up to it.
    Very interesting.

    Stay warm, Honeys! See you later.

    What did you all think of Sarah’s latest Alaska episode? I thought that octomom Kate person whoever-she-is was a complete classless cow.
    (Sorry, cows.)

    • emmajeri1010 says:

      On the top of the hour news, the news reader presented the obama fail news using words that bracketed it this way: opening line: “Federal judge rules that obamacare is unconstitutional.” Then, the closing line: “obama says that this ruling will not prevent implementation of the law.”

      Oh. Ok. Now tell us something we don’t know. Does that tell the whole story in a nutshell or what.

  16. Good morning fellow Honies:)

    Cold, snowy and a two hour delay for our public school district. 19 degrees; winds in the 20ish mph; snow showers off and on. Its winter in Pittsburgh…blah other than the Stillerz won yesterday and the Guins are on a 12 game winning streak. The drive to work wasn’t too bad (thank you salt trucks!)

    I still can’t get my mind around the Friday presser with the President and Duh Won. I can’t shake the vibe that there is more to all of that in the context of Barky’s plans. A resignation in the offing? I really believe that he hates the job (or any job/work) and is looking for an ‘out.’

    • Remember my question as to whether Bubba said “Help me” to The Won at the presser? Bubba did say “Help me” but it was toward Glib Gibbs as The Won had to go kowtow to Moooochelle. I still can not believe that Big Dawg keeps bailing out useless/clueless/hopeless. Un-fricking-believable.

  17. Jennifer H says:

    Here is a poll for the final four candidates for president over at red state… Palin is matched up against Haley Barbour, Cain is matched up against Pence…

    Go vote for your top pick :)

    • DeniseVB says:

      Oh my, isn’t Redstate Mittens/Huck country? And they didn’t make the final four?

      I only vote for Sarah in current polls. Well, until someone else speaks up as she does about the faults of BOTH parties….you betcha. :D

  18. PhillyCon says:

    Steele was Doomed from the Start ….
    After reading this op-ed, does anyone see any patterns?

    “Steele came to office shortly before a book he authored blasted every Republican administration since Reagan for having abandoned conservative principles (the offending administrations, of course, were both named Bush). Though Steele’s thesis gets no argument from me, or many others, it was not the best way to assume control of a party apparatus still heavily infested with Bushies. Early on, in fact, Steele chose not to court the remaining apparatchiks from the Bush era, arguing (correctly) that they were the ones who put the party into the mess it was in in the first place. This proved to be another grievous error; if the denouement of Steele’s troubled reign were a movie, it could be called “The Establishment Strikes Back.””

    • sundancecracker says:

      The RNC is as useful to conservatives as Nancy Pelosi on a girl scout camping trip. Both just get in the way. People are sending money directly to candidates. The only people supporting the RNC are cocktail/country club republicans. That is who will elect the next RNC head.

      3 establishment class members from every state, and U.S. Territory. They will be voting upon an appointed candidate chosen by the Decepti-cons. Trent Lott, Ed Gillespe, Karl Rove, Mitch McConnell, Haley Barbour, Orrin Hatch, John Cornyn, etc. etc. will have to approve and appoint. That is the STARK REALITY and anyone thinking otherwise is just fooling themselves.

      Steele, despite his many, many, flaws. Was more likely to respect the Tea Party conservatism than any other potential GOP figure.

      • Menagerie says:

        These people may pretend to make nice with the tea party, but they only do so for appearances. They rightly fear the tea party.

    • sundancecracker says:

      Just announced on Fox. STEELE WILL SEEK re-election to head RNC.

      Grab the popcorn….. this is gonna be fun !!!

      Steele/Palin/Tea Party Conservatives vs. Establishment Republicans !!!

      • sundancecracker says:

        Controversial Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele, who last month presided over the GOP’s biggest electoral gains since 1938, will announce tonight that he is running for re-election, Fox News has learned from two RNC members.

        Ending weeks of rumors that he would not seek a second term, Steele plans to throw his hat into the ring during a conference call with RNC members at 7:30 p.m. ET, the sources said. Steele is said to be amused by false reports of his retirement and intentionally kept his plans secret for the last month in order to flush out competitors for the post

  19. Patriot Dreamer says:

    Obama’s reelection campaign could hit billion-dollar mark

    And how much of that money will come from George Soros, unions, or foreigners? Just wondering.

    • sundancecracker says:

      Think about that. A sitting president up for re-election needing a billion dollar campaign fund? It could be a Trillion bucks and the incompetent bastard still won’t stand a chance…. We’ve had enough of his ridiculous incompetent antics.

  20. Patriot Dreamer says:

    Emanuel tax paperwork complicates residency case
    Amended forms to bolster claim that he was still a resident, spokesman says; opponents plan to ask candidate about timing of filings,0,7213447.story

    Ultimately, I think they will find a way to let him run (because it’s Chicago). But it’s still interesting to watch. Bring out the popcorn!

  21. Patriot Dreamer says:

    Breaking news:

    Federal judge in Virginia declares individual mandate in ObamaCare to be UNconstitutional. No details yet.

  22. PhillyCon says:

    Rush is calling Bill Clinton “Co-President Bill Clinton.” Funny.

  23. WeeWeed says:

    Yes!!! The VA. judge has declared Ogabe’s healthcare unconstitutional!

  24. GracieD says:

    I’m not an attorney, but I would imagine that the Law stipulates that the “fine” for not having coverage is not a tax. I read the bill, and cannot recall seeing anything described as a “tax”. The conundrum is, if the “fine” is actually a “tax” then the whole Law may be invalid, since the original bill did not originate in the House, and ALL tax/spending bills MUST originate in the House. The stupidity of the Dems may just be our Salvation in this case.

    • sundancecracker says:

      Another great example of how Scott Brown helped conservatives more than people give him credit for. The Senate Bill eventually used was their only option because they passed that bill prior to Jan 19th 2010 when Brown won. As soon as Brown won the opportunity to pass another Healthcare Bill in the Senate was lost. Period. Nor could they get a house bill through the Senate, so they had to use the “Pre-Brown/Senate Bill” as the construct of the whole diabolical mess. The Senate Origination was exactly why the admin continually told the press it was not a tax. They knew the problem this would create.

      • PhillyCon says:

        Just posted to Gracie, that also b/c of Scott Brown, they were unable to go to the conference committee, and merge the 2 bills. If they did that, it would have to go for another round of votes in both Houses, hence the filibustering that would occur with Scott Brown.

        Yes, the Dems in their haste, zeal, and gollum-like quest for socialized medicine, did themselves no favors.

  25. sundancecracker says:

    SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea warned Monday that U.S.-South Korean cooperation could bring a nuclear war to the region, as the South began artillery drills amid lingering tension nearly three weeks after the North’s deadly shelling of a South Korean island.

    The South’s naval live-fire drills are scheduled to run Monday through Friday at 27 sites. The regularly scheduled exercises are getting special attention following a North Korean artillery attack on front-line Yeonpyeong Island that killed two South Korean marines and two civilians.

  26. yomotley says:

    Breitbrttv leads in with this about MO’s new little law:

    “The child nutrition bill was signed into law by President Obama Monday morning, capping months of advocacy by the first lady as part of her efforts to reduce childhood obesity.”

    Hmm. Can the president really sign a bill where sexual favors have been given to him by the initiator of this new law? Can he really sign this after having been given preferential treatment by the biggest lobbyist of the law?

    Just thinking outside the box……

    • Patriot Dreamer says:

      Well, we already know that SEIU wants to unionize health care workers. I guess the AMA is just a little ahead of the times.

      • sundancecracker says:

        The SEIU already has thousands of health care workers. Who are none to happy with the previous Mr. Stern and his Obamacare fiasco. Hence, many SEIU factions have saught waivers. In addition many saw the spending of $30M to sue the Southern district SEIU membership from leaving SEIU main union, was a complete waste of their dues. Craig Becker was lead counsel on that one along with Andy Stern behind the scenes.

        SEIU really is just a prime example of union thuggery!

    • Bijou says:

      I guess that’s supposed to be a ‘Rod of Aesculapius’, but to me it looks more like a screw, which is actually appropriate. (If you get my drift.)

  27. DeniseVB says:

    First rule of Mom Club, don’t tell other Moms how to raise their kids !

    ….especially that your kids’ fat behinds are a threat to National Security ! Will someone please tell her to shut up !

  28. Jennifer H says:

    I have to snicker at this – good one Motley! ;)

  29. Jennifer H says:

    Doc Zero on Palin vs Obama weekend imagery -)

  30. sundancecracker says:

    A sweeping proposal of tax breaks and unemployment aid earned enough support Monday to pass a key procedural hurdle in Congress, clearing the way for a final Senate vote on the controversial package in the next couple days.

    The Senate has crossed the 60-vote threshold needed to end debate on the package, though the vote is still open. The nearly $900 billion tax cut package, forged between Obama administration and congressional Republicans, faces a tougher time in the House — where Democratic leaders dealing with a backlash in their caucus are waiting for the Senate to act before taking up the bill.

    • Amsterdam Expat says:

      I’m not pleased with this, obviously. But on the other hand, if this legislation ultimately gets signed into law, it will serve as one more reminder to the Tea Party that its work was by no means completed in November 2010 …

  31. yomotley says:

    A “Rascal” sighting over on “Obama Signs…..” thread! Welcome, Rascal!

  32. Thomas Hooker says:

    We have heard so much about the economic problems in Europe (which we are helping to bail out). This article details the responsible steps the European Parliament bureaucrats are taking in terms of their own salaries and benefits. Can you imagine how they would suck all of us dry if this were a global government, not just European?

    This is a sample:
    “A backdated salary rise combined with increased allowances means that all 736 European Parliament deputies will receive a New Year’s lump sum gift of over £5,400 despite pay freezes and cuts for the voters they represent across the EU.”

    There is much more in the article. Just catch your jaw before it hits the desk.

  33. Ad rem says:

    Sigh…..once again my dad has been proven right. He used to say, “Kitty, ALL men have feet of clay”. Now I find out the great Leonardo Da Vinci used lousy ‘Paint by Numbers’ kits.

  34. yomotley says:

    ATTN KRISTI……..Your recent post is on Mon 11/29. Please put on this thread.

  35. sundancecracker says:

    Great Greta lineup tonight. Checking it out now. :)

  36. AFinch says:

    The hive feels rowdy tonight. Hard to pull myself away, but away I must. Good night trouble makers. Be nice to each other.

    • Ad rem says:

      Yeah….I’m just itching for a good ‘sting’. (Actually, I’d settle for a good stinger…1 3/4 oz brandy, and 3/ ox white creme de menthe…shaken not stirred.)

      Good night Finchy…..see you at 5 am.

      • Ad rem says:

        Hah! Looking at the ’3/ ox’….you might think I’ve been sampling the cat nip already! ( *hic* 3/4 oz)

      • Pat P says:

        Wow, I haven’t had a stinger in years. It was the first grown up ‘cocktail’ I ever had (and loved). I also liked stingers made with scotch. Sort of a minty Rusty Nail (remember that one?)

    • Ad rem says:

      The Chinese have finally found something more gross than their “Thousand Year Old Eggs’. (I hear that they’re rarely over a hundred years old though….quite comforting.) I remember one of my fellow teachers used to bring these things into the lunchroom on occasion. Never saw anything more disgusting in my life. Who was the first person to find a hundred year old egg and say…”boy that looks good”? It must have been a starving North Korean.

    • yomotley says:

      That is great but I am still traumatized about Leanardo DiVinci painting by numbers; too much so to wait in line to taste some of this soup.

    • Pat P says:

      And these people think turkey is disgusting?

  37. yomotley says:

    Honeys, A couple of questions are asked of HB historians over on “The Case Against…….”
    thread. Look for my gravatar towards the bottom. The questions are from our birdie, Violet. Thanks.

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