Friday Open Forum – December 10, 2010

Grandma’s Entrance Into Heaven. Intro by NeeNee. Written by NeeNee’s Daughter

(My ex-husband’s mother, my girls’ grandma passed away two days ago at the age of 84. My oldest, Jennifer, is an English/journalism major who is head of public relations at a Christian mission foundation; her husband is a pastor. She was asked to write this for her grandma’s pastor to read at her funeral. Both girls elected not to make the long trip back this weekend for the funeral, mainly because they had already witnessed their grandma’s departure into God’s heavenly kingdom).

Death isn’t pretty, and it isn’t easy. But in the midst of my grandmother’s death Tuesday, God gave me one of the greatest gifts ever.

This is going to be a long post, but if you’ve ever wondered whether dying people know what’s going on around them, or whether the angels really do show their faces to those they’re coming to take home to Heaven, I hope you’ll make it through to the end.

When you think of what the perfect grandmother would be like, Grandma was that grandmother. Pleasantly plump. Always a smile on her face. Always a hug and a yummy treat. Always more love brimming out of her than even we greedy young things could absorb.

And we were greedy. I don’t know how many grandchildren Grandma had (although before the Alzheimer’s, she would have been able to tell you every one, along with all their birthdays). I don’t know the number, though, because there had been several divorces, remarriages, more divorces, etal …it was hard to keep up with who was with whom. But somehow Grandma kept it all straight, and for many whose home lives were falling apart, she and Grandpa were the rocks their grandchildren clung to. For nearly 40 years, they provided unconditional love, in great abundance.

Late Saturday night, I received one of those phone calls we all hope will never come: the call from a little-known relative, letting you know that someone you dearly care for is nearing the end of life on earth. Grandma had suffered a massive stroke and wasn’t expected to live much longer.

The woman who had rubbed my tummy when I felt sick, who helped me out of the apple tree when I climbed too high, who bandaged my scrapes and stings and kissed me goodnight now needed me to bring her that same comfort. And oh, how I wanted to be able to give back to her, just a little bit of all that she’d done for me.

Fortunately, I have an incredible husband who didn’t question me leaving him in the middle of Advent (one of the most hectic seasons for a pastor) with two busy kids and a messy house. Just gave me a kiss and said, “Go.”  And so I went.

Late Monday afternoon, I arrived in western Iowa at the bedside of my broken grandmother. In life, Grandma had been an Avon representative and always kept herself looking nice. Now, that pretty softness was gone. In its place was a tight mask of death: skin pulled taut across her face, eyes sunken, her toothless mouth hanging open as she gasped for each breath. It was difficult to see.

At her bedside were my half-sister, and one of my cousins. My “whole” sister and I joined them and into the wee hours of the morning, we held Grandma’s hands, stroked her sparse hair, kissed the thin, feverish skin on her forehead and cheeks, and shared our favorite memories. Could Grandma hear us? If so, we couldn’t tell. She remained as unresponsive has she had been since the stroke, unable to squeeze our hands or murmur a word.

As the hours passed, our attention shifted to what was most important: sharing the Gospel with this dear woman who was soon to meet her Creator. It had always been hard to tell exactly what Grandma believed about God. She went to church every now and again, and I knew that she believed in Him.

But now, with the time of her meeting Him so near, was she ready? Again, we couldn’t know. She couldn’t communicate with us at all. And so, having been told that hearing is the last sense to go as a person dies, we decided to do what we could to share the Good News with Grandma.

As the rest of the people of my home town climbed into their beds for a good night’s rest, we opened the Bible to Luke and the story of Jesus’s birth. When we got to the part about the prophetess Anna, who had waited her whole life to see the Christ Child, I whispered into Grandma’s ear that now, like Anna, she was going to get to see her Savior. If she was worried about whether she would be able to go to heaven, I told her that because she was a baptized child of God, those worries could be thrown away. Jesus had taken all her sins upon Himself, and she no longer had to worry about them. Now, He was waiting there to take her with Him into heaven, and someday, I was going to join her there, too.

Again, there was no response. Just the strained, though regular, breaths.

The next morning, things quickly changed. Grandma’s breathing became even more labored and her eyes stared, unseeing. More family gathered, and we each had our time for that final goodbye and our private words of love.

Then, as the other family members left the room, my two sisters, two nieces, and I were left alone with Grandma. I thought of Grandma lying there in the silence – wouldn’t that be lonely? What else could we do for her? So we pulled out a hymnal and started to sing Christmas hymns.

We started with “Away in a Manger,” which ends with this stanza:

Be near me, Lord Jesus,

I ask Thee to stay

Close by me forever

And love me I pray

Bless all the dear children

In Thy tender care

And take us to heaven

To live with Thee there.

As we finished the last few lines, Grandma began to stir. Thinking she was hurting or restless, I rubbed her hands as we continued. Then, as we sang the Glorias of “Angels We Have Heard on High” and prayed “O Come, O Come Emmanuel,” what I believe was a miracle happened.

Grandma’s eyes, previously frozen and unseeing, suddenly came alive. The spark of life was in them again, and she focused intently on something only she could see. A single tear seeped out of her eye as she joined her voice, guttural and unformed though the words were, with ours. With her last strength, she raised her hands and swung them with the music. Her toothless mouth spread wide in the most joyful of smiles. Her face shone.

I’m writing today to tell you that something happened in Room 218 of Crawford Hospital at 12:40 p.m. on Tuesday, December 7, 2010. I believe that the curtains to heaven were opened to Marcella Keiner’s eyes. And five of her grandchildren and great-grandchildren were blessed enough to be in the room when it occurred.

If you wonder, if you worry, …give those wonderings and worries over to God. He is with you, friends, to the very end, and He will never let you go.

172 Responses to Friday Open Forum – December 10, 2010

  1. GracieD says:

    Tears flowing….that brought back many memories.

  2. JRD says:


    What a beautiful Story! Thanks for sharing. You have all been so blessed to have this experience. What a comfort to all of you.

    • I agree. Thank you, NeeNee, for sharing this.

      He is with you, friends, to the very end, and He will never let you go.

      He will never leave you nor forsake you

      Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you.”

      Deuteronomy 31:6

      The LORD himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged.”

      Deuteronomy 31:8

      No one will be able to stand against you all the days of your life. As I was with Moses, so I will be with you; I will never leave you nor forsake you.

      Joshua 1:5

      May the LORD our God be with us as he was with our ancestors; may he never leave us nor forsake us.

      1 Kings 8:57

      Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, “Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you.”

      Hebrews 13:5

  3. Pat P says:

    This is a beautiful story. Thank you so much for sharing it.

    I am asking for prayer this morning for my best friend, who has been diagnosed with cancer. It was found during a routine colonoscopy, but is not the usual colon cancer, but a ‘carcinoid’ type of slow-growing cancer, found in the small intestine.

    She is going for a CT scan today, so please keep her in your thoughts. She needs strength and peace.

    • yomotley says:

      Oh my, Pat. Your friend, and you, are in my prayers. Have a blessed day.

    • TNWAHM says:

      Saying a prayer for your friend.

    • Auntie Lib says:

      Definitely – I will keep her in my prayers.

    • integrity1st says:

      Pat, I think she will be okay. Though I’m still very worried about my Dad, simply because of his age, having it in four places, including by his heart, and for how long and much they have spread undetected. Your friend might get through this with simply having it removed. How old is she, and how big are they? My Dad has done exhaustive research on this so if you would like for you or your friend to have it shared with you, please let me know. I will pray for your friend and ask for your prayers for my Dad . . . and my husband who is fighting Parkinsons. Love to all.

      • Pat P says:

        Thanks, integrity1st. I may want to ask questions as soon as we know the “how long” and “how far have they spread” questions. She is 61, and has been diagnosed with IBS in the past, which I understand happens commonly with this kind of tumors.

        Right now, she needs strength and calm to deal with what will come.

        I will certainly pray for your dad and your husband – another prayer only does good. Love to you and your family.

        • Integrity1st says:

          What is IBS? I think my Dad could give her strength and calm because it is the not having the information that is the most scary, and at this point, he’s an expert. Some situations can be made completely non-scary. LMK when.

          • Pat P says:

            IBS is irritable bowel syndrome. I think of it as the catchall diagnosis when the doctors don’t know how your symptoms are caused (diarrhea, cramping, etc). Apparently, some of these tumors give off hormones that cause the IBS symptoms. has good info about this kind of cancer, and I found another good site (aimed at doctors, I believe). We don’t have all the info about her situation yet (where the primary tumor(s) are, how large, how long she has had these), so can’t pin down specifics.

    • Menagerie says:

      Said a rosary for you, your friend and all my honeytrail friends. I’m very grateful for all of you.

    • sundancecracker says:

      Prayers sent your way.

    • Pat P says:

      Thanks so much to everyone for offering prayers for my friend. I will tell her, and I know she will appreciate it very much, as I do.

    • yomotley says:

      Reference the first link. “Obama’s outreach to Muslims…” When are we going to quit calling O’s action at “outreach”. It is, “Obama’s alliance with Muslims”.

      It would not hurt for people to start commenting/correcting writers wording.

      Not only did the ambassador visit the mosque with terrorist ties he, “He also invited young Muslims there to enroll in a cultural exchange program that would bring them to the U.S.” (Which validates my first statement above)

    • Jennifer H says:

      I can’t go to the second link for some reason…

      • JRD says:

        Jennifer H, I copied it for you from the UK Sunday Times February 22, 2009 .

        A LEADING Chicago fundraiser is being tipped as Barack Obama’s choice as the new US ambassador to Britain, prompting charges of cronyism.

        Louis Susman is likely to be a controversial choice. He was one of the new president’s chief donors and raised $300,000 (£208,000) towards the presidential inauguration.

        Benjamin Sarlin of The Daily Beast, the US news sifting website, commented: “It is a strange country where we jeer at the alleged auctioning off of a Senate seat while accepting as normal that dozens of ambassadorships are brazenly sold to the highest bidder . . . it evokes the political culture of the banana republic.”

        The appointment of the ambassador to the Court of St James’s is always a plum gift to be given by an incoming president. It is a political appointment and often goes to a leading donor. According to The Washington Post, although no final decision had yet been taken “it is likely to happen”.

        Susman was one of Obama’s earliest backers. He is a 71-year-old investment banker who lives with his wife Margie on Chicago’s exclusive lakeside Gold Coast, and he also owns a holiday home in Nantucket bought in 1990 for $4.6m.

        Susman is familiar with the City of London and has just retired as vice-chairman of Citigroup Global Markets.

        His reputation for fundraising is such that he earned the nickname of the “vacuum cleaner” during John Kerry’s 2004 campaign when Susman raised money for him.

  4. Patriot Dreamer says:

    Chrissy, you were just talking about C.S. Lewis’ “The Screwtape Letters”.

    MSNBC Commentator Mocks Palin for Reading C.S. Lewis for ‘Divine Inspiration’

  5. zmalfoy says:

    Aw, man, that got me choked up. Thank you for sharing– I will keep your family in my prayers.

  6. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ Honeys. This article is no surprise, but a coffee-curdler none the less.

    • WeeWeed says:

      Sorry, JRD – didn’t see that you already snagged it! It got MY attention, too.

      • JRD says:

        Dumb-0 must have had the most miserable childhood surrounded by all those communists. I honestly do feel sorry for the blacks in this country. They didn’t deserve the first black president to be such a miserable depressing social REJECT! Most blacks are Christian and their loving Father is important to them and guides them in their lives. There is no more fitting word to describe Dumb-o than miserable and he won’t be happy until every other American is also. He knows nothing about the joys of family life. He is still just a lonely little boy looking for attention. Any attention is worth it to him even if it’s negative.

        • Thomas Hooker says:

          Several months ago, an article was making the internet rounds. It was published in a popular magazine in the forties. The author described a cocktail party and speculated on which guests would be Nazis. Her conclusion was that such ideologies appealed to unhappy people. Does anyone have a link?

          • NeeNee says:

            Hey, Thomas Hooker!

            This intrigued me, so I googled it and came up with this link:


            From Harper’s Bazaar, 1941:

            Who goes Nazi?

            By Dorothy Thompson

            “It is an interesting and somewhat macabre parlor game to play at a large gathering of one’s acquaintances: to speculate who in a showdown would go Nazi. By now, I think I know. I have gone through the experience many times–in Germany, in Austria, and in France. I have come to know the types: the born Nazis, the Nazis whom democracy itself has created, the certain-to-be fellow-travelers. And I also know those who never, under any conceivable circumstances, would become Nazis.”

          • NeeNee says:

            Pull quote from excellent long article also really

            fits the definitions of dangerous progressives


            “Sometimes I think there are direct biological factors at work–a type of education, feeding, and physical training which has produced a new kind of human being with an imbalance in his nature. He has been fed vitamins and filled with energies that are beyond the capacity of his intellect to discipline. He has been treated to forms of education which have released him from inhibitions. His body is vigorous. His mind is childish. His soul has been almost completely neglected.”

          • JRD says:

            Very interesting, thanks for the heads up.

  7. Patriot Dreamer says:

    Dems set their sights on top targets for the 2012 elections:

    Of course, Allen West is one of them.

    • GracieD says:

      So when are they going to release Zippy’s Transcripts? At the very lease, they could release his grades…then we would see that he was actually a “C” or “D” student, and not the “brilliant legal scholar” that the Left claims he is.

      • violet says:

        As someone said with regard to the WikiLeaks imbroglio: If we want to keep our nation’s secrets really secret, we should store them where President Obama stores his college transcripts and birth certificate.

    • Library Countess says:

      They seem to presume that conservatives are just gonna lay down now and be quiet since we have some little bit of control. If Dems continue to act the way they have since the election (thank you Nancy et al!) I think that not only will these individuals still be in Congress but they’ll be joined by others of like mind. We’re just not that into progressive.

    • JRD says:

      Thanks, just went to their comments section and slammed them. Allen West’s district was represented by Republican Clay Shaw for 23 years before Dumb-0′s Midwest Communist Academy contributed “Hope Fund” money in 2006 to socialist Ron Klein. We aren’t sitting back in Fl-22 and resting on our laurels. We have every intention of continuing the fight. Our aim is to get rid of Marxist Wasserman-Ditz with the redistricting. Florida is conservative red!

  8. Library Countess says:

    Yomotley, your daughter has your gift of writing. This brought tears to my eyes. What a blessing for your daughter to have been present as her grandmother entered the presence of Jesus.

    • JRD says:

      It’s NeeNee’s daughter.

      • yomotley says:

        I need NeeNee’ daughter’s real name to put up there. It is starting to go around facebook.

        • NeeNee says:

          Motley, I’m going to say no because, retrospectively,

          I probably should have edited out my location. Daughter really wrote this to be read at Gram’s funeral, and I probably should have waited until afterwards to post this. I’m not on Facebook, but she and her sisters are, who in turn may send it on to others in the family who could take offense at the historical “family facts”, shall we say.

          Awhile back I wanted to use her name & location in conjunction with comment input on world countries still untouched in the mission field. She gave me said input, but said not to use her name or location.

    • AFinch says:

      LC–It was NeeNee’s daughter that wrote this. Motley reposted it as the day’s open thread. It is, indeed, a beautiful story, told beautifully.

      Thank you for sharing NeeNee.

    • Library Countess says:

      oops… sorry NeeNee … :(

  9. Library Countess says:

    And for today’s chuckle: somebody in the democratic caucus was heard to say “F the president.” So far an unnamed individual. It’s on Drudge, HotAir, etc. Anybody want to hazard a guess as to who it was (cuz you know it’s gonna come out eventually). My vote is Grayson!

  10. butchcracker says:

    Opps!!! Sorry gang!! The above was me(butchcracker)somehow got caught up in honeys blog…opps…not site savy AT ALL…

  11. wendy ann says:

    Tears….thank you for sharing your daughter’s story….

    • chrissythehyphenated says:


      • NeeNee says:

        Thanks, Chrissy. BTW, did you see that

        yesterday on Hillbuzz, someone posted that

        “it’s time to drag out Chrissy-the-Hyphenated’s

        Twelve Obama Days of Christmas?”

        Hadn’t been on Hillbuzz since the First Great Purge,

        so I clicked on the link and was dutifully amused.

        Somehow I don’t think royalties

        will ever be involved . . .

  12. Kristi says:

    My grandma died in 2003. She lived in NW Ohio and I was in Detroit for work.. and swung by her hospital to say my goodbyes. My mother was there and all my cousins. aunts and uncle. When I walked in the room.. my grandmother was still sort of concious and she stirred.

    Everyone went home but I stayed with my mom. Everyone said goodbye to grandma telling her it was ok to go. My mother could not say that to her mom.

    My grandma never regained conciousness that evening… my mother was so sad and kept telling me “how to I let my mother go? I cant do it, I will never let go”.

    So all night my mother never let go of her hand. She read her the bible, cried and kept telling my gradma that she couldnt let her go..

    In the morning, the nurse came in and said it was time.. my grandma would be gone soon. My mother let go of her had and grabbed her phone and walked out of the room to call her brother. (she thought she had time)

    I was holding her hand.. she took a breath, I kissed her told her I loved her and she died. There was a peace in that room I will never be able to describe. It changed my life. I was a Christian but I wasnt religious.. I never prayed.. I was too busy living my life. My grandmother was a wonderful Christian.

    My grandma waited to die when my mom left the room.. she knew my mom couldn’t handle watching her take her last breath. I believe my grandma was giving me a gift of seeing God in action. She knew I needed it and would need it in a very short time there after. The unselfishness of that act will never leave me.

    I couldnt cry at her funeral. My grandma went to somewhere beautiful.. I just knew it, we weren’t alone in that room. Something came and took my grandma. Something beautiful and peaceful.

  13. Library Countess says:

    My dad died in 2005, just a couple months shy of his 85th birthday. Unbeknownst to us (his kids, my mom knew), he’d been told 5 years earlier that he needed to be on oxygen full-time (he had COPD). He refused and told my mom to never mention it again, which she didn’t. He collapsed one night and spent the next 3 weeks in ICU, going from complete dependence on a ventilator for one week, to trying to get out of bed the second week, to death at the end of the 3rd week. He regained consciousness that last two days of his life. I was there every day, and on his last day when I stopped to see him, he asked where my mom was. I told him she was at home and would be by later. I talked w/ the nurses who said that while he still had some time, he didn’t have a lot of it. I called my brother to go get her because Dad was waiting for her. Mom arrived a bit later and they said their goodbyes, and Mom told him it was okay for him to go. He died 20 minutes after she left the hospital. They were married 62 years and had dated for 7 before they married.

    I’m not sure it’s ever been officially studied but anecdotally, it’s pretty well known that people will often “wait to die” until family members have left the room to spare their loved ones that pain.

    Another interesting tidbit: my dad’s birthday is Jan 17. Every year since he has died, two stars appear over my house during January. They sit alone in the sky, like eyes, and there are no other stars anywhere near them. Even though I know intellectually that they are stars, I often feel like he’s just stopping by to say “hi” (and yes, I wave, and talk to him). Once January is over, they seem to disappear and I can no longer pick them out.

    • Kristi says:


    • redgrandma says:

      Beautiful stories of peaceful endings. When my dad passed away he too waited for my younger brother to leave the room. He always felt a tender need to protect my not so strong sibling. The day before he died he must have known. He called me and frantically extracted a promise from me to take care of Mom, along with very specific instructions.

      I did that for him in what I truly believe is an amend for all the love he deserved but which I failed to give him in life. Mom lived another ten years and through that time I developed a profound love of and closeness to her that I did not believe was possible. I had been at times in my life a wayward and difficult daughter.

      When mom died, three years ago yesterday, I was with her and the room was filled with the love of her children and grandchildren. Mom was always a wonder with plants, making the simplest of grocery-store-bought holiday gifts grow into amazing and enduring houseplants. Over the years I had acquired a number of orchid plants — some as long ago as 15 years. Once they lost their initial blooms I could never coax them to flower again — they were just nice green leafy things. That is until within a month after Mom died. They began to bloom — one by one, each and every one of them and continue to provide me with stunning blossoms to this day. Right now 5 of the 7 plants are flowering.

      There is a power in deep love that does not die, that continues in our lives and can bring us comfort in the darkest moments or just let us know that we are still loved as we trudge through ordinary days.

      Thank you for sharing your stories in this most blessed time of year.

      • Kristi says:

        I had bought my grandma a flower of the month thing.. she just loved it, every month a new one would arrive and she would wait for it to bloom. The last one took forever (amoryilus..cant spell it right)

        The day she died, it finally bloomed.

        God gives us signs, I think. Flowers have to be one of them.

      • Menagerie says:

        Oh thank you for your beautiful story. I love that eveyday the honeys bring something new and wonderful to each other. Sometimes joyful, sometimes sad, sometimes something that makes us mad, lots of laughs. This is such a great place.

  14. zmalfoy says:

    Okay, I need to stop reading these stories– y’all are makin’ me cry right here in my little cube!

    Back to work, back to work . .. sniffle . ., work work work. . . can’t waste y’alls taxpayer money by reading your sobby-stories. . . ugh, I’m such a girl . . .sniffle . . .

    • Shalini says:

      Me too. It’s all so painful and beautiful at the same. I’ll pray for the departed souls (Hey! I am Catholic. That’s how we are wired!).

      Reading these stories brings my biggest fear to the fore, actually. My mom had me when she was 45. (We are now in that magical age where reversing the numbers in my age would result in her age!! :) ) When I was young and stupid, I used to worry my parents wouldn’t be with me till I grow very old. The thought of a world without mom and dad seemed unimaginable. I used to think I never wanted to live long enough to deal with that. Then I realized how selfish that was and decided that no matter how big my grief would be, they didn’t deserve to go through the pain of losing a child. (Morbid I know, and all that when I was 12. )

      Now I better go and wash my face before my mom returns from the church.

  15. PhillyCon says:

    What a beautiful post.

    Well, my father is in the deep throes of Parkinsons, and its brutal. My mother cares for him, and I have seen the toll it has taken on her. My mother is of great faith, but sometimes feels alone and worn out. As many of you know, the person suffering from the disease, is an empty shell, and is unrecognizable. They are often angry, belligerent, and uncooperative. However, sometimes the true victim is the care-giver.

    • EZBurns says:

      Yes, contrary to movies and platitudes, dying people are still human— they can be angry, spiteful and distillations of all their negative traits. Pain makes them angry and mean at times. Isolation makest them lash out at the care giver who can still get up andwalk out of the room (often to go work a full time job before returning for their second full time job). Fear makes them say things to test the loyalty of those around them. Or as they drift away, you’re caring for the shell of who once was.

      It’s a battle. With them, with yourself….

      Caring for the dying is often more about you than them. For those who can do it and do it with grace, you have my unending


      • EZBurns says:

        PS– it’s one thing to care for someone you love or have good memories of…

        It’s another story to care for someone who was abusive, cruel and neglectiveful on their best days. But because they have the title of parent, spouse etc… you still provide care for them. And no, no clouds open, no great revelations occur…..

        Makes for a completely different picture and tale.

      • I wouldn’t exactly call it “with grace”, but there is grim determination aplenty! My 40 years of nursing come in very handy for the physical care, especially the daily incontinence of everything you can be incontinent of! I am SO glad I didn’t spend my working years as a librarian, or seller of perfumes. It seems I was always preparing for this, one way or another. 8-)

        What I didn’t prepare for, because I had no idea, was the mental and emotional toll it takes on a person. My husband’s nickname for me for decades has been “Tough Broad.” Every time I heard it, I knew he was going to want me to do something I wouldn’t like, but would end up doing anyway. Even tough broads wear down, though…which is where the grim determination comes in–we don’t wear OUT!

        • Pat P says:

          Dear Frankly, I know how difficult this is, as my father was all of the above, though younger, and my mother bore the brunt, along with the wonderful visiting nurses.

          When you love someone, the emotional distress can be very tough. God bless you!

        • PhillyCon says:


          You remind me of my mother, she is a tough broad too, and also has 40+ years of Nursing under her belt. She has dealt with so much in life, that this was the last thing she expected to deal with in her “golden years.”

          Sleepless, EZ… thanks for your kind thoughts, EZ you were right on the money, she has 2 full-time jobs now.

    • SleeplessinCA says:

      “However, sometimes the true victim is the care-giver.” You are so right! God bless your mother.

  16. JRD says:

    America’s just not that into you, Mr President. The future still looks grim for Barack Obama

    Bloomberg points out that Ronald Reagan’s numbers were even lower than Barack Obama’s at the end of his second year in office – with 61 percent of Americans saying they were worse off, according to a Washington Post/ABC poll in October 1982.

    Reagan however was a hugely experienced, highly principled politician, who advanced free market policies that ultimately led to an economic boom for America. He was also an extremely inspirational and charismatic leader, a conviction politician with an unshakeable belief in American greatness. In contrast, Barack Obama has relatively little leadership experience, fails to inspire the American people, does not even believe in American exceptionalism, and is implementing policies that are making America weaker, poorer and more indebted. He also heads a party that is deeply divided, with liberals engaged in an increasingly ugly civil war, with open talk of a challenge to Obama for the 2012 nomination.

    President Obama’s personal approval rating now stands at just 46 percent, one point behind George W. Bush, and a staggering 28 points behind Ronald Reagan at 74 percent. Political comebacks can never be ruled out, but there’s certainly no sign of one yet on the horizon for the current occupant of the White House.

  17. Amsterdam Expat says:

    I like this move — even the gesture of promoting it (not to mention that actual amendment) should give Congress pause. (Or it would, if the majority in that body were still rational.)

    (Via Instapundit.)

  18. Patriot Dreamer says:

    Economist John Williams of ShadowStats is interviewed by Canada’s BNN (Business News Network). He sees a hyperinflationary depression coming to the United States:

    • Bijou says:

      Good interview. Thanks for posting, Patriot Dreamer.

      That co-hostette was very annoying, grinning like a jackass throughout and asking idiotic questions. She doesn’t have a clue.

      I’m stockpiling food staples and I don’t even live in the U.S.

  19. Jennifer H says:

    Oh Wow, what a beautiful stories, I know the messages and spirit of their telling will stay with me long after merely reading them. Thank you all for sharing the sacred with us.

  20. TXMom says:

    NeeNee, Thank you for sharing this beautiful and powerful story. (hugs)

  21. Jennifer H says:

    Doc Zero on Palins Wall Street Journal article

    • SleeplessinCA says:

      ” As Americans watch the Democrats dissolve in a petulant meltdown over their own childish demands, economic fantasies, and utter irresponsibility, they would do well to learn that people like Palin, Ryan, and Pence are the adults in the room.”

      After CA goes into bankruptcy with (still) clueless Gov. Brown, maybe the libs will sober up and get serious. Yeah, and then I woke up………….

      • JRD says:

        I feel for you SleeplessinCa. California is pathetic. God bless you for living there. At least we have some hope in Florida that the situation will be rectified for we the people.

      • sundancecracker says:

        I really do feel for fiscal conservatives like you and Ad rem living in CA. Man, its gotta stink at times from a political perspective. Expecially when you can see the writing on the wall and yet the majority are just stuffed with kool-aid, and refuse to see the obvious. Gotta be frustrating. :(

  22. yomotley says:

    One of my favorite sites, Black&Right has two videos today that are great. While there, don’t forget to read the comments (and add to them if inclined)

  23. SleeplessinCA says:

    “Critics have often said of Obama that “it’s all about him,” that he has a tendency to reference himself no matter what subject he is discussing. Could he do any more to prove them right? ”

    Read more at the Washington Examiner:

  24. From the Patriot Post this morning; apologies if someone else already posted it:

    “A few weeks ago, United States Army Staff Sgt. Salvatore Giunta became the first living service member to be awarded the Medal of Honor for actions in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Now, it has been reported that during the ceremony, Giunta’s family — including a World War II vet — and fellow soldiers were relegated to the third row and further back to make room for a few Democrat congressmen.

    Is this an indication of how little respect Democrats have for our warriors? To ask the question may be to answer it.

  25. Thomas Hooker says:

    Lord Monkton reports from Cancun, excerpt

    In the UK, the Climate Change and National Economic Hara-Kiri department has already enthusiastically banned real light-bulbs in favor of the flickering, mercury-filled alternatives which – if the appropriate EU “Directive” is followed – require a specialist cleanup team at a cost of $3000 every time one of the wretched things gets smashed.

    On my recent visit to the Department, formerly the down-to-earth Ministry of Agriculture and now the up-in-the-air Ministry of Fantastical Nonsense, I asked its chief number-cruncher whether he could show me his calculations demonstrating how much “global warming” the $1.2 trillion that the Ministry of Madness plans to spend over the next 40 years will forestall.

    He harrumphed that he had done no such calculation, so I asked: “In that case, Professor, on what rational basis is any of this expenditure being made or proposed?” Red-faced with embarrassment, he couldn’t answer that one either. Neither can I, for only a fool hunts a reason for the doings of fools.

    Full post here:

  26. Jennifer H says:

    More greatness from IamDagney

  27. I believe my dad will be leaving shortly by ambulance to go to the hospital and find out if he broke his hip when he fell yesterday. He cannot do any weight-bearing on his left leg, and although there are no bones jutting against the skin, the left leg is slightly swollen and deformed compared to the right. Hard to make that kind of diagnosis at home, or by the hospice nurse over the phone. It looks like the question of what I should do today has been effectively answered.

    • WeeWeed says:

      Oh, FtN, I’m so sorry. We’ll be thinking of you and praying for both of you.

    • Mrs. Compton says:

      Keeping your dad in my prayers.

    • Not fractured. The MD suggested that the shortened leg, severe pain, etc., might have been from a temporary partial dislocation that resolved with all the twisting, turning, moving and stuff that was done to get him to the hospital, because by the time the xrays were done, he was only complaining of hunger! Lucky for me, the hospice nurse heard him screaming with pain while I talked to her on the phone, and saying how much his hip hurt. Be just my luck to have somebody think I had Munchausen-by-proxy syndrome! Since we went in in a blinding blizzard, they kept him overnight and I waited for 6 hrs. or so until somebody could pick me up and take me back in less-blinding snowstorm. I guess next time it happens–if there is a next time–I’ll try and “fiddle” it back in myself. Goodness knows, I don’t want to do the whole ambulance-ride-in-a-blizzard again!!

  28. zmalfoy says:

    Oh, please, don’t mind us here in the peanut gallery, chomping away on deep bowls of popcorn. Mmmm, I love the taste of shadenfreude with my leftover pork-fried-rice at luchtime.

    Oh, Progs, your tears are so sweet and delicious . . . ;-}

  29. sundancecracker says:

    Hey folks, I screwed up. Sundance screwed up. Big Time. I should have placed the Op-ed piece by Sarah Palin in the Open Forum thread, and not in a separate Palin Post. Calling attention to Sarah Palin in three posts this week lends an impression that the majority of site readers, commentators, and supporters are favorable toward Sarah Palin. This may or may not be the case. But we had chosen at the outset not to go “all in” on any individual opinion of a political candidate. This series of posts certainly makes the impression we are ALL Palin supporters. Indeed, we are not. There are a host of great political candidates for 2012, and each should be given the full favor of consideration toward their supporters. I Don’t want anyone not supporting Palin, being uncomfortable in this cyber room of really kind, and smart readers.

    That is where I went wrong. I created the discomfort by presenting a narrative that was not ‘inclusive’ and was actually very ‘exclusive’. I screwed up. I do not want people to feel uncomfortable, and I created the potential discomfort. It has been politely brought to my attention, and rightly so.

    So out of an abundance of caution and concern to those folks, and any others, who may not feel comfortable openly expressing a similar awkward sentiment I apologize.

    Many people would not feel comfortable calling me out, and like a receipient of bad food in a resturant, they may just pay the check and not return. That would suck. I would not want this place to suffer from my bad judgement. I hope you will accept my most sincere apology.

    Warmest regards.


    • Jennifer H says:

      What character you posess Sundance.

      Thank you for your frank assesment of the situation and your sincere apology.

    • Debra says:

      Someone responding to gentle correction with humility? Unheard of! You are a good guy, Sundance.

    • PhillyCon says:

      I hope I didn’t offend anyone on that thread …

      • sundancecracker says:

        You didn’t. Not at all. I love your passion for Palin and you eloquently express that sentiment well. No worries. It was me. I need to be sensitive to the look in the front window (front page) of our cyber store. The window display should be warm, inviting, and inclusive, so that people come inside and enjoy the fellowship and conversation. There are no substantive controls on the conversation (once inside), other than those put in place by the folks talking, and everyone being respectful.

        By me putting 3 Pro-Palin posts up this week, I made the window display look very exclusive to only Palin supporters, and many potential visitors might not open the door to come in. That would suck…. because our diversity is one of our key strengths. This site is intended to be a place of kindness, fellowship, respect, and great great information…. Not just on Palin. So it was my error. Not yours or anyone elses. Ya’ll are inside chatting up a storm, brilliantly and with frilliant analysis.

    • Menagerie says:

      Sundance thanks for your apology, but from my perspective, this site has always been friendly and respectful to all views and I don’t think we feel imposed upon. I like your enthusiasm, and I bet if I emailed you a post I wanted to send on anohter candidate, you’d put it up if the content warranted it. All is well.

  30. NeeNee says:

    Sometimes when I am a little down in the dumps,

    I go to my library of Dr. Demento cassette tapes.

    Back in the late 70′s/early 80′s, I faithfully listened

    and taped every Sunday night for 3 hours, as Dr. D had the

    biggest collection of old novelty records known.

    Back when humor was not offensive/obscene.

    Whilst baking date pinwheel & molasses cookings

    yesterday, I listened to several Christmas theme

    ones I had archived. Just googled Yorgi

    Yorgensen and found “I Yust Go Nuts at Christmas”.

    Cracks me up every time I hear it!

  31. TXMom says:

    I don’t believe his base is “shattered” permanently, but I did like this piece. “President Obama has made a fatal political mistake: He has shattered his progressive base – perhaps permanently. His liberal hour is over. This is the real meaning of the White House’s tax deal with Republicans……Liberals are finally discovering what most Americans already know: Mr. Obama cannot be trusted. He is a narcissist who believes that everyone and everything – including his own country – must be subordinated to serve his needs. His messiah complex threatens to tear America apart.”

  32. Patriot Dreamer says:

    British health care system near breaking point:

    NHS reaching ‘breaking point’, doctors warn

    The NHS could soon reach ‘breaking point’ due to increasing demands on the service, cuts in doctors’ hours and financial cutbacks, senior doctors warned.

  33. Amsterdam Expat says:

    Red State comes out swinging against the tax-cut-pork-trough compromise.

    • Amsterdam Expat says:

      Here’s DeMint’s statement on it:

      And for good measure a list of all Senators up for re-election in 2012. All of these critters deserve to get a primary challenge — even the better ones.

      • sundancecracker says:

        Shere principled awesomness from Jim DeMint:

        …”I’m not going to be bullied into voting for things that will hurt our country because politicians in Washington ignored the problem until it was a crisis.

        Many of you fought hard to elect new leaders to the Senate this year with the expectation that they would fight deficit spending, tax hikes, and backroom deals. I take that commitment very seriously and I’m prepared to vote against this bill even if I’m the only one in the Senate to do so.

        I appreciate the efforts made by my party’s leaders to negotiate this deal but I believe Americans deserve much better. This deal should be rejected and then fixed. We can easily extend these tax rates without increasing spending once the new crop of Republican senators, including Pat Toomey, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, and Ron Johnson, are sworn in. The President has already conceded that taxes cannot go up and we’ll have more Republicans in Congress in a few weeks to fight for a better deal.”….

  34. sundancecracker says:

    There are numerous potential concerns with an Obama/Clinton ‘private’ meeting. Especially given the electoral climate and disparity of ideological politics involved.

    Accepting that both Obama and Clinton are/were at exactly the same ‘fork in the road’ with their administration(s) and the historical political losses on the hill. They could indeed converse on many things regarding the need for an ideological shift to the center. However, the construct is concerning.

    1. Both Clinton and Obama suffered massive defeats in the house.

    2. Both Clinton and Obama were following a marginal ideology, supported by only small amounts of their entrenched base. However, Clinton was more personally liked by his adversaries, and refrained from hate speeches and specific personal disparagements. Obama has no issue, creating progressive political polarization.

    3. Clinton knew politically his personal direction of ideology needed to change. Obama does not posess that same ability to look in the mirror for solutions.

    4. Simultaneously, Obama has stirred up his hateful ideologically minor base into a frenzy from which there is little chance to back away toward the center. A self fulfilling prophecy from two years of divisive hatred and post campaigning that never ends.

    5. Clinton used the Oklahoma City Bombing ‘opportunity’ (Alfred P Murrah building) to reconnect with the ‘people’ he governed.

    6. It is the holidays. Massive crowds will be gathered in hither-to-for generally less used public space.


    (((( tin foil hats ? ))))

    just sayin’………..

  35. Mrs. Compton says:

    What a beautiful story, thank you so much for sharing it.

  36. Bijou says:

    Did you guys see this?

    BO left in the middle of a press conference and had Bill Clinton take over.

    WTF happened here? He said Moochelle was waiting for him to go to a Christmas party!

    Of course Bubba loved it and riffed on about several topics.

    Is the Doofus having a breakdown or what?

    This is one of the weirdest things he’s done yet. Drudge is all over it.

    • Historic!


      I mean, really, have you ever seen that done before?

    • WeeWeed says:

      Total crackup of some sort. But, I have my tinfoil hat on. I think B. Hussein’s on something, seriously…can you imagine W or even the Gipper going, “oh hell, I’m late for a party so let’s get Jimmuh or Slick to go talk to the unwashed masses about the …..” Pfft. And, while I have the hat on I’m not so sure about the seriousness of wikileaks (internet control) or this, or that. And if that a$$ Clintoon again mentioned the OKC bombing as an “opportunity” he is sanctioning violence, IMHO. Rat bastid….he’s up to something.

      • Obama just turned over the podium in the White House press room to the last President from his party, and then left to go to a party.

        Now imagine if George W. Bush had done the same thing… turned the podium in the White House press room to the last President from his party, and then left to go to a party.

        The press would have ripped W a new one for being a little kid who turned it over to Daddy because he couldn’t handle the presssure and wanted to run away to play!


        WHO’S YOUR DADDY?!?!

        Right now, it looks like it’s Bill Clinton!

    • JRD says:

      He’s bored with the entire president thing. He just wants to be king and go to parties, fly around in air force one, play golf, hold audiences for socialists to come and kiss his feet, etc. He only wants all of the perks. This running the government stuff well, some little minion can do that. That’s not for King Dumb-0. He was busy playing community disorganizer all his life now he’s all of a sudden supposed to be responsible and show up at the Oval Office every morning and actually go to work. Come on people get a grip. These are the monsters King Dumb-0 and Queen Moochelle that Ivy League Affirmative Action created. Hey, “It’s good to be the king!” Besides what they teach you at Harvard is don’t worry about doing any work. Start politicking for your new job. Leave the mess behind you for somebody else to clean up. Trouble with Dumb-0 is he’s depressed. After POTUS there is nowhere to go but down. He’s like anyone else who undeservedly reaches fame and fortune without achievement. He’s sitting there saying, “Is that all there is?” When you don’t do the hard labor, you just don’t get it. The rest of us can look back on the fruits of our labor and say, “Wow, I did this!” That’s not so for little King Dumb-0.

  37. Mrs. Compton says:

    While the snow is so darn cute and I love it, it’s creating an issue for my eyes. Is there a way to turn it off individually?

  38. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’, y’all! If you have a minute, run over to snarkapolitan for coffee with Ms. P – she’s got a new one up.

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