Wednesday Open Forum – December 29, 2010

It is Midweek already! On my mind this morn is the wonders of young love and how young men seem to get all ga-ga and starry eyed at a more intense level than young ladies. Several of the guys here have been “struck”. It makes for an interesting time around here.

I am excited about the “words’ article posted by Sundance right before this Open Forum.  Anyone seeing another “side bar keeper” here????   Enjoy the day — We look forward to chatting.        Praises and Blessings.

113 Responses to Wednesday Open Forum – December 29, 2010

  1. Felix says:

    Good morning to all! As I type this I’m staring out my window at all the feathery friends we have that are enjoying the breakfast I put out for them. A lot of these guys make their way down for the winter each year. I’m particularly happy this morning since we have the same pair of orioles that come spend the winter with us every year. I think this is the fifth year running. I’ve no clue how long orioles live but I always smile when I see them show up each December. (They were late in coming this year and I was starting to get worried.)

    Also on my mind this morning, liberals were ecstatic yesterday when the news [CNN] was reporting that Governor Palin has less than 50% of Republican support in the primaries IF she runs.

    There are so many things wrong with that poll and those figures that I don’t even think it’s worth arguing with anyone over it.

  2. WeeWeed says:

    Good Morning, Honeys! Heading out for the gulag but had to share another article on B. Hussein’s efforts to punish Texas. Y’all have a wonderful day!

    • Jennifer H says:

      End run play- Obama is doing this with all of the big issues he cannot get through the legislative process. “Death Panels” FCC take over of Net neutrality, the EPA’s actions, the Huge Federal land grabs and on and on. Gah, my Dad thinks the next congress will stop him by not funding this garbage, after the lame duck – I am not so sure.

  3. AFinch says:

    Here’s a great post from Conservatives4Palin on–you guessed it–Palin.

    The only point with which I disagree (as I note in the comments over there) is the author’s characterization of the lame duck GOP. They weren’t fooled or strong-armed by the dems or the media. They voted exactly how they wanted to vote. They aren’t saps. The only saps in the room are you and me–if we continue to believe the GOP elites are the hapless fools they pretend to be.

    • PhillyCon says:

      I’ll go check it out, and your comment too!

      Oh, how great is it that DeMint gave Palin some props!! :)

      • sundancecracker says:

        I really like Jim DeMint. He and Palin have many similarities in my view. Their position(s) based on “principle”. Palin calls them “common sense principles”, and I agree. I seriously hope that more DeMint type conservatives are elected to advance his coalition in the Senate 2012.

    • sundancecracker says:

      Good article…. But your comment was GREAT. Someone/Everyone needs to keep pointing out that these subversive GOP actions are not accidental. The Decepti-cons are doing everything with specific intent. The “Lame Duck” GOP support was not an erroneous happenchance.. The Decepticons DO NOT want a strong conservative coalition in the senate. They want earmarks, they want big government, they want their power. True conservative principles run counter to the needs of Decepticons.

      That is exactly why McConnell backed establishment class (Decepticon friendly) candidates in the primaries and lost. While DeMint supported true conservatives (Rubio, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, etc) and won.

      Conservatives, or Republicans, who fail to accept/recognize “the enemy is within our ranks” are as much to blame for the problem as the progressive Pelosi/Reid supporters.

      • Wraith says:

        The Decepticons DO NOT want a strong conservative coalition in the senate. They want earmarks, they want big government, they want their power. True conservative principles run counter to the needs of Decepticons.

        Quoted For Absolute Freakin’ Truth!

        This is the concept we need to get across to mainstream America. We can no longer treat R’s and D’s like sports teams, voting for ‘our side’ even if the candidate in question is anathema to everything ‘our side’ is supposed to stand for. We can no longer tolerate unlawful, dishonest and dishonorable behavior from our elected officials out of a weary cynicism. The standards we have abandoned, must be renewed…and fast.

        The dangers of traitors in the ranks were well understood before Christ walked the Earth. But the only way to make America understand the depth of the treason is to remind them what we’re supposed to be standing for in the first place. To demonstrate that character still exists, and that it is important. To educate the people about the Constitution; why it was written the way it was, and what principles it embodies.

        We have a long, hard road ahead, but not an impossible one. With great Americans like Col. West, Governor(and future President) Palin, Senator DeMint and many others(including this motley crew of Trail Riders)on our side, we will fight and we will win.

        God hasn’t turned from us yet, exasperated as He might be. He offered to spare a city for the sake of a righteous few. In the same vein, I believe He’ll spare our nation as well…but we’re going to have to work for it.

    • Jennifer H says:

      Thanks for linking this- it is a great article, and your comment was spot on. We HAVE to hold these people accountable for their actions, not their words. Again, and again, and…
      No going to sleep, any more.

    • Menagerie says:

      Oh right on. The have an agenda and they are sticking to it. Can you honestly believe they want a strong, principled conservative president? They stand to lose too much and believe we will continue to back the republican party because we have no choice. As long as there are no consequences for them, they are right. I believe we gave them a few consequences in November. Lisa Murkowski is an example of their arrogance.

      • emmajeri1010 says:

        Maybe the focus and the sifting leading up to the 2012 will be a tightening of the focus simply on holding everyone accountable and one of the results may well be that Americans who want the Constitution and the nation defended and protected will as a matter of course “become something” that they are not today. They won’t plan to become a third party. They won’t plan to (literally) throw out the RINO’s and take command of the entire infrastructure of the pubs….but as we are true to our convictions re our nation and it’s foundations, those things may indeed result and when it’s over, the media and the defeated wimps can title it whatever they want: The Tea Party, a 3rd party, TFRP (The Former Republican Party) or New America. I’m not sure I care alot what it’s called or exactly how we get there. But get there we must.

        I am still completely unable to discuss what lisamercowskee did without spit flying around in the area around me. What, exactly, do these people think primaries are for? They keep on being revealed by their own actions. It’s just so infuriating to discover that it actually is completely impossible to insult them. No matter what exaggerated slur we might design to throw at them~~just hang around for a bit: the reality of who they really are will make that exaggerated slur look like a child’s blather.

  4. PhillyCon says:

    Hey everyone:

    JRD started a nice discussion about Wall Street and Dems, I posted over in the book thread, but wanted to include it in the open thread. I think this is important to note, whose side Wall Street and big business is ultimately on ….

    You are right on about Wall Street and its perceptions. Ann Coulter wrote a nice column detailing this very phenomena. Michelle Malkin also wrote a nice piece on how hedge fund traders and investors all ponied up to Obama.

    AC: Gordon Gekko is a Democrat

  5. Pat P says:

    Four questions to ask a liberal. Frightening reminder about our national debt.

  6. TXMom says:

    Don’t cry for me Argentina/America…..A correlation between Argentina in the early 1900′s and America today.

  7. Is it “our” Maryohsocontrary who is quoted, in bold, by MOTUS this morning?

  8. marie says:

    from Yahoo news:

    ” The White House says President Barack Obama has commended the owner of the National Football League’s Philadelphia Eagles for giving quarterback Michael Vick a second chance after his release from…:

    sorry, but if the Vick person had been white, would we have heard from the prez as to giving him a second chance?

    • AFinch says:

      Doubt it. In any case, it’s all very strange to me. Why this issue and why now?

      This is Vick’s second season back in the league and it seemed like people had all but stopped talking about his dog fighting conviction. Obama’s comment simply draws more attention to the issue. If there’s one thing most people across the political spectrum can agree on, it’s that dog fighting and those who promote or abide it are dispicable. So I’m at a loss to understand what anyone gains from these comments.

    • PhillyCon says:

      Obama jinxed the Eagles with this … you guys all know about his “winning” touch, right?

    • PhillyCon says:

      Forgot to add: if Vick had been a flop there would have been no phone call.

    • emmajeri1010 says:


  9. (Blushes) yes…I was on a BC ‘roll’ yesterday ;) (love MOTUS…snark, personified AND reflected!!!)

    • Ooooops…that was supposed to be a direct reply to ‘FranklytheNut.’

      Now for the REAL reason I stopped by…just wanted to say I am lunching (okay, there ARE admittedly MILLIONS of other listeners…but can I have my fantasies?) with MARK STEYN (who is filling in for Rush.).

      Mark is being his usual brilliant self…calling New York City….’the city that doesn’t sleep, apparently also doesn’t plow…’ He is ripping Bloomberg to shreds.

      :) MQ-C

    • I had an exchange of emails with MOTUS, over McAfee always listing her site as a risky one, AND I got an email Christmas card…but you got Q.U.O.T.E.D!!!

  10. sundancecracker says:

    The bad news keeps coming for MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann. The 2010 ratings data is starting to trickle in, and the news is not so great for the Countdown host. In a down year for cable news where all three networks registered a decline in viewers, Keith Olbermann lost 11% of his total audience, but what is most troubling is that among the coveted age 25-54 demographic Olbermann lost 25% of his audience.

    Keith Olbermann’s total drop in viewership was 2% higher than MSNBC’s network average, (11% vs 9%). In contrast, Rachel Maddow lost less of her audience than MSNBC as a whole. Maddow only declined by 6% compared to the network’s 11%. Maddow’s total loss was almost half of her lead in Olbermann, (6% compared to 11%). Olbermann also lost a higher than network percentage of those viewers age 25-54. MSNBC lost 18%. Olbermann lost 25%. Maddow only lost 14%.

  11. PhillyCon says:

    Michelle Malkin’s: Big Nannies of the Year

  12. Jennifer H says:

    Hello honey Trail Hikers!
    I feel like I have been gone forever … Now that the company is gone I have finally had time to sit down and read all the wonderfulness of the last week or so from our hosts and awesome community. I am happy to see more and more folks trickling in from HB and deciding to join the fantastic conversations thoughts and opinions discussed here. I hope that every one had a Very Merry Christmas – and I look forward to the new year. Thank God the 111th is gone and done for good. I only pray that the new representatives We The People elected stand true to their principles and start down the long road of meaningful change that is vital to our nation’s survival.
    Cheers to you all !

  13. AFinch says:

    More evidence that Mitch Daniels is not the person we should be expecting the take the battle to the left:

    To summarize, he and his party now have control of the statehouse and the governor’s mansion. Some republicans have filed right-to-work bills that would prohibit companies from making union dues or membership a requirement of employment. What’s Daniels say: It’s potentially too divisive. Let’s wait until after we do education reform, local government reform and criminal justice reform before we do something to address what should be a self-proclaimed fiscal conservative’s number one priority–the economy.

    For those of you keeping score at home, Daniels is now on record as saying that (1) social issues are too divisive and we should be focusing on the economy instead and (2) right to work legislation is too divisive and we should be focusing on education and criminal justice reform instead. Oh yeah, he’s who I want leading the charge against the leftists in Washington.

  14. yomotley says:

    Totally off subject here. I just finished watching the Christmas love story, “Lovely, Still” with Martin Landau and Ann Burstyn. I turned it off, thinking it was turning bizarre thriller (kids watching) but DH put it back up. I am so glad he did. It is a beautiful love story. The ending floored me. Netflix has it on instant watch.

  15. Jennifer H says:

    Jeffrey Lord article and commentary on Palin and her willingness to call it like it is.

    • JRD says:

      I love Jeffrey Lord. He and Peter Ferrara were both part of the Reagan administration. They are 2 of my favorites.

      Net Neutrality Is Theft
      By Peter Ferrara

    • AFinch says:

      Hmmm. Wonder when this guy will rescind his request that Palin “leave the room.”

      • JRD says:

        You know as much as I used to like this guy if I should happen to encountered this elitist scumbag now I would turn over his wheel chair and dump his egotistical butt on the floor. Maybe it would knock some sense into him. But then again everyone knows that the only people who pursue a doctorate in psychiatry ARE CRAZY TO BEGIN WITH!

        So big deal this guy went to Harvard. Who flippin cares? Just because you went to an Ivy League school doesn’t make you any better than anybody else.

        You know I am starting to believe that these Ivy League educated idiots have an insecurity complex. I am starting to dish that out to the Ivy Leaguers I encounter who hate Palin. It sure does get their knickers in a twist. Whoo-Hoo. I ain’t takin no Ivy League elitist crap any more. No sir those days are over. It’s now ILIS, Ivy League Insecurity Syndrome, these dorks suffer from..

        • AFinch says:

          I love it.

          I’ve been doing a little background reading on Dr. K. Did you know that he worked in the Carter administration and was a speech writer for Mondale during the 1980 presidential campaign. Guess who is favorite president is? FDR. How many conservatives do you know who would put FDR in their top ten?

      • sundancecracker says:

        His contempt for Palin is palpable. Krauthammer is a decent thinker of economic principle, and I have witnessed him speak eloquently as such. However, he is also an asshole, an elitist asshole jerk. He filters everything through his own self created prism of intellectual capacity.

        He is like a manager of tasks, without concept or consideration for the emotional impact of morale on productivity. A big thinker that loses sight of the goal by focusing too heavily on the details.

        Krauthammer has no concept of your bakery doing more business because you thank the Baker and commend him for the quality of his product. Inherently that Baker grows within himself a feeling of pride. Good pride, the pride that will produce only the best he has to offer for your customers. Why? Well you know, and I know, but intellectually Krauthammer cannot quantify that feeling as value, so intrinsically he does not afford it any consideration.

        He can write volumous books filled with analysis of outcomes, and well worded articles and papers crammed with considerations of events after they occur. But that is it. Period. He provides no value upon the field of endeavor. He’s clueless until the outcomes are determined. Then he can chime in.

  16. Jennifer H says:

    Here is a poll I found for Conservative of the Year – so far Ron Paul is winning, go vote :)

  17. Integrity1st says:

    I could not just post the link because this came in an email, but here is link to whole site:
    Please read and donate if you can. Think of it as our first line of defense. It appears all evil seems to originate on our east and west coast and work it’s way towards the center:

    Dec. 29, 2010
    MassResistance Update
    Pro-family activism

    “In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
    – George Orwell Home Page

    Please DONATE

    1. Scott Brown contacts hardcore Mass. homosexual activist — invites him to “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” repeal signing ceremony in D.C!

    2. And more: The US Senate’s (and Brown’s) other lame-duck gift to the homosexual movement: Chai Feldblum on EEOC.

    3. Exodus from military over DADT repeal starting, reports WND.

    4. Mass. (RINO) Republicans praising Scott Brown for being “politically smart.”

    5. As 2010 winds down: Why should you donate to MassResistance?

    6. Pravda USA: Boston Globe portrays homosexual Episcopal bishop as crusader for progress.

    1. Scott Brown contacts hardcore Mass. homosexual activist — invite him to “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” repeal signing ceremony in D.C!

    Sen. Scott Brown has done many things recently to publicly show his distain for the pro-family people who supported him. But this is probably the most personally offensive.

    As the Boston Herald reported this week, Brown went out of his way to contact hardcore anti-family homosexual activist Tom Lang and give him (and his “husband”) a personal invitation to the Obama’s signing ceremony in Washington D.C. of the “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” repeal. Lang had been part of the homosexual lobby’s huge 10-month effort to persuade Brown to abandon his position against the repeal, and switch to supporting it. Brown apparently decided to reward him for his success.

    Special day in D.C. for ‘don’t ask’ activist
    By Jessica Fargen and Laura Crimaldi
    Boston Herald
    Sunday, December 26, 2010

    Call it a bipartisan marriage.

    Tom Lang, a gay activist and independent from Manchester-by-the-Sea, received his invitation to Wednesday’s signing of the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell” from none other than Republican Sen. Scott Brown.

    Lang, an antiques dealer, riled conservatives in 2005 when he started, where he published the names of people who signed a petition to ban gay marriage in Massachusetts.

    Lang, who took his husband to the event, lobbied Brown to vote to repeal “don’t ask, don’t tell,” repeatedly calling his staff to ask him to vote against it. All that hard work paid off. Brown’s office called him Tuesday with two invitations to the signing, he said. Lang said he was impressed with Brown’s thoughtful deliberation.

    “We’re dealing with a statesman here, not a puppet. I respect the man,” Lang said.

    A Brown spokeswoman said Lang asked for help, “so our staff reached out to the White House to see if he could attend.”

    See Herald article online HERE

    A horrible anti-family homosexual activist

    Lang is arguably the most vicious anti-family homosexual activist in Massachusetts.

    Back in 2005 over 170,000 people signed petitions to get the Marriage Amendment on the ballot in Massachusetts. Soon afterwards Tom Lang and his “husband” Alex Westerhoff set up a website called KnowThyNeighbor. There they posted the names and addresses of all the signers and invited people to contact them and confront them. (They’ve also taken it nationwide, and have led similar efforts in Arkansas, Florida, Oregon, and Washington.)

    As a result, many people who signed the marriage petition were harassed at their homes and at work. People were threatened with loss of jobs. They were shunned at local gatherings. Some were attacked in newspaper articles. It was an act of intimidation on a huge scale, and was traumatic for all of us. Many people have now refuse to sign pro-family petitions at all because of this.

    Since then, Lang and Westerhoff (who are “married”) have continued their reign of anti-family terror. Their activities include:

    •Terrorizing a pro-marriage rally in Worcester. Part of group chanting “Bigots”–attempting to drown out speeches by pro-family speakers.
    Lang (holding sign) part of group screaming “”You’re nothing but bigots; Christ would be ashamed of all of you.” “We won, go home, get over it.” and other taunts at pro-family marriage rally in 2005.

    [MassResistance photo]

    •Terrorizing Park Street Church in downtown Boston, with a demonstration using bullhorns pushed against the church windows during a religious event inside.
    Lang incites crowd of activists preparing to terrorize Park Street Church in 2009.

    [MassResistance photo]

    . . . And later marches with them in front of church.

    [MassResistance photo]

    •Demonstrating outside Tremont Temple Baptist Church in Boston while Gov. Mitt Romney was speaking at pro-traditional marriage “Liberty Sunday” event inside (Oct. 15, 2006). Protesters were screaming anti-family slogans, with signs such as “MITTLER” and “Religious Liberty Is Not A License For Bigotry”.

    Lang demonstrating in front of church while pro-marriage event was going on inside.

    [MassResistance photo.]

    •Threatening a restaurant where pro-family father David Parker was speaking.

    •Intimidating parents at State House public hearing on Parents Rights legislation.

    •Starting “KnowThyNeighbor” intimidation groups in other states — and helping them in lawsuits for right to post the names of petition signers.
    If this is Brown’s idea of being a “Scott Brown Republican” he really doesn’t get it. The symbolism of this and the pain this causes Lang’s victims makes it clear what Scott Brown thinks of us now.

    • Jennifer H says:

      That was fast – and illustrates exactly my fears, what if the majority of our newly elected representatives pull a “Scott Brown”

    • Moe says:

      Wow, I missed this little tidbit. I was born in MA and most of my family still lives there. My family is very active in the Pro-Choice movement and some were harassed by these clowns, my 80 year old Aunt Gladys for one. What was Brown thinking ? Sadly not clearly, so sad.

  18. WeeWeed says:

    2011 Predictions!! Some are quite humorous…others, meh.

  19. sundancecracker says:

  20. Menagerie says:

    Just had a conversation with #3 son while I was cooking supper. He enraged me, dissappointed me, yadayada. My turkey pot pie (all my leftovers, one dish!) is a vegetable pot pie. I forgot to put in the turkey.

  21. AFinch says:

    More evidence that Chris Christie is not a conservative:

    “Chris Christie wasn’t appeasing the NRA or 2012 Republican primary voters. And sadly, he isn’t anything resembling a “friend” to gun owners. A northeast Republican, Christie’s stance on firearms is as draconian as that of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg. The simple fact of the matter is that if Christie’s views on firearms were widely known, his chances of capturing the 2012 Republican primaries would go up in smoke.”

    Again, for those of you keeping score at home:

    Christie on the GZ Mosque: neutral (read, in favor of it)
    Christie on cap’n tax: for it
    Christie on gun control: for it
    Christie on unions: opposed (at least when on the verge of bankruptcy)

    • Kristi says:

      Its too bad h is such a RINO/NE republican….. he has the gumption that we need.

    • Jennifer H says:

      Add endorsed Mike Castle to that list :)

    • TXMom says:

      Thanks for posting this, AFinch.
      Christie on ObamaCare: “Waffles” with no true conservative reasoning that I can figure out. As of last month, he still had not joined State law suits challenging the constitutionality of Obamacare. Doesn’t NJ have a form of ObamaCare?…The NJ FamilyCare and isn’t it federally supported? Oh, Garlic, I wish you were here to enlighten me. :)

  22. Pat P says:

    Email message from Chris Bowers at DailyKos:

    Last week, Daily Kos asked you to join with Senators Jeff Merkley and Tom Udall to help reform Senate rules regarding the filibuster. Since then, all 53 Democratic Senators who will be returning to the Senate next year have signed a letter saying Senate rules regarding the filibuster should be reformed.

    This is huge, because only a majority of Senators are needed to make reform happen. The question is no longer if the Senate rules regarding the filibuster will be reformed, but how they will be reformed.

    With momentum on our side, take this chance to join with Daily Kos, as well a Senators Jeff Merkley and Tom Udall, by signing our petition to make the filibuster a real filibuster.

    • Amsterdam Expat says:

      You know, I keep attempting to give the Donkeys the benefit of the doubt and look for the rationality in their moves, but time and again I just can’t help arriving at the conclusion that they are either inept or just plain crazy — or at least wish to appear so. This is a good case in point, for if they abolish the filibuster (with the ‘Pubs controlling the other house of Congress), what would they actually be able to achieve during the 112th? Not all that much (apart perhaps from getting some judicial nominations through more easily than they otherwise might) — and they’ll certainly take a hit in public opinion for their trouble. And with the filibuster removed, the Republican majority in the Senate at the beginning of 2013 would have a much easier time undoing legislation of the O years, above all, O-Care (in concert with SP or someone similar in the White House, of course), than they most likely would if the filibuster remained untouched.

      But perhaps it has registered with some of the Senate donkeys that in the end their party would be much better off once the burden of O-Care is no longer on its back, and with the destruction of the filibuster they’re setting up things so that their ‘Pub counterparts can repeal it without any of them having to join the effort — so as to avoid any anger from their left-wing base and so as to be positioned to condemn the GOP (mendaciously, of course) once it is repealed! So … are they crazy, or just incredibly cunning?

  23. Kristi says:

    I have an Aunt in Ireland… she has now been waiting… 1 1/2 years for carpel tunnel surgery. Just a simple hand surgery.

    Its become a joke in my family… “has Doris moved on the waiting list yet?”

    How long would we wait? Uh.. a week? Maybe 2?

    I hope the new congress can/will defund health care.

    • emmajeri1010 says:

      Yesterday I received the CMS Medical Summary Notice for bloodwork done some time back, bloodwork which revealed that my thyroid was completely shut down. An inexpensive generic medication has turned my world around and I feel better than I have in years. The summary I received yesterday informs me of the following:
      1. The 5 blood tests the doctor ran were billed, including the office visit, were billed at/cost $484.
      2. Medicare paid $8.62 (TOTAL) to the doctor and medical group.
      3. Medicare informed them that they did not believe this service was necessary (Duh: routine blood work, which [at age 66] had never been done on me)

      4. Medicare informed them that they cannot bill me for these services.
      5. Medicare informs me that that I do not have to pay for these services.

      Oh. Ok.

      So. I received almost $500 of very valuable medical services, which resolved a longstanding, significant chronic condition that I was not aware of. DH and I pay over $6,000 in premiums for Medicare Part B and Supplemental Care…so that our expenses will be paid for….and now our doctors are stiffed for almost $500 (don’t forget: they did get $8.62).

      We went into the business office at the medical group yesterday and showed them this. The nice manager we talked with immediately said, “Oh, we see that all the time.” She kept saying how she appreciated us coming in….and I kept saying how wrong this way: they are being punished for providing appropriate medical are; we are paying premiums and our expenses are not being paid; they are told they may not bill us. This is just flat wrong, and obviously completely unsustainable.

      We are keeping every single one of these CMS notices, and are going to keep totaling them up. We did not ask to be part of a ripoff of the medical community. I am so disgusted with the lies….she was so surprised that we even had read the figures and done any math. She said “most people just look at what they have to pay, if anything….and most of them resent having to pay anything at all” (if they haven’t paid for Part B and Supplemental).

      It’s simple math. The medical community is being choked to death. So they will learn, I’m sure. They will learn to stop providing generic blood screening processes for useless old women like me so they don’t get stuck with a $500 loss.

      • Integrity1st says:

        Emma: That’s so amazing and we/they are lucky to have YOU. On the other hand, my son went to the emergency room with a black eye. It was completely closed and in the early am. Not sure what all they did, but we left with instructions to ice and that was it. The bill for this visit $4,000.00+ so are they taking it from elsewhere?

        PS I’ve had hypo and hyper thyroid. Both can be very serious if not properly treated but the cure is perfected to completely mitigate it either way, but all should be vigilent about a blood test to monitor.

        • AFinch says:

          Yes, they are taking it from elsewhere. Progs will use your experience as evidence of the rising costs of medical care without citing Emma’s experience that shows how the government’s presence in the marketplace distorts it.

        • Patriot Dreamer says:

          This is how costs get shifted to private insurance. MediCare/MediCaid don’t pay much, so doctors and hospitals have to charge private insurance more to make up for the losses. Like AFinch says, it is the government that is causing the problems.

          • AFinch says:

            Same thing happens on a larger scale in the international markets with pharmacuetical drugs. All of the countries with socialized medicine set artificial price points on what they will pay for drugs, so manufacturers charge more in the US to make up for it.

  24. Amsterdam Expat says:

    During his most recent vacation it seems that O has been swimming in a sea of ….

    • WeeWeed says:

      That just….breaks my heart…tee hee….just, bless his heart……bwwaaaaaahaahhaaaaaaaa……..

    • emmajeri1010 says:

      Oh, crap! I was so hoping it would be something like that (like what happened at Martha’s Vineyard when they went there) but I just didn’t dare hope that circumstances would conspire to poop upon him again. It’s a fine thing when industrial and human wastes are on our side, and it would appear they are. That is so funny.

      And it was so funny watching the Vikings 3rd string QB hand Vick his lunch last night. But at least he has obama’s blessing, so I’m sure he’ll be fine.

  25. emmajeri1010 says:

    I think the snow on Honey Trails is coming down harder today than it has been? Can you make it a blizzard? We’re supposed to have a blizzard here on New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day, so I’d like one on Honey Trails, too. (sorry….little giddy here tonight…)

  26. yomotley says:

    I am probably late to the party and if this has already been posted, well, I haven’t read all the comments yet!

    President Urkel

  27. sundancecracker says:

    Oh Geee, what a shame…..

    …..The state of Ohio will lose two congressional seats thanks to the latest U.S. Census figures, and liberal stalwart Dennis Kucinich is worried his seat is on the chopping block. In an e-mail to supporters Wednesday, the seven-term Democratic congressman and two-time presidential candidate says the Republican-controlled Ohio legislature is likely to eliminate his heavily Democratic Cleveland-area district.

  28. AFinch says:

    Yet another reason why I love Ann Coulter:

    “In 2005, Vice President Cheney gave 77 percent of his income to charity. He also shot a lawyer in the face, which I think should count for something.”

    Read the whole thing at

  29. JRD says:

    America Without Government Schools

    The public schools of today deprive children of their right to be what God made them to be. That is their sin. Charlotte Iserbyt, in her magnum opus, The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, proves through exhaustive documentation that secular educators are using animal training techniques developed by behavioral scientists to turn American children into mindless robots who respond reflexively to stimuli imposed by godless educators. The children are being conditioned to respond through reinforcement as predicted by their trainers. As trained animals, they cannot take dominion over anything.

    Education is not the same as training. Animals can be trained. They cannot be educated.

    • Patriot Dreamer says:

      Just reading that article would make Progs platz!

    • zmalfoy says:

      Oh, very good article. I need to find the book he referenced– I got my deree in education, but didn’t go into the system because the whole thing felt wrong. I hope to homeschool my future children– I know I’m good at teaching, and ever since college, I’ve actually been learning what I should have been learning in school, so I’ll know what to teach them (or, what to get tutors for, because as a product of the current system, I’m crap with languages other than English. Always wantedto learn the Biblical languages, though)

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