Thursday Open Forum – December 9, 2010

Morning Trail People. Coffee is on but we are skipping the donuts today. No, a certain advocate of banning the sugary, ooey-gooey, roundies is not influencing us this morning. It is simply, these days the donuts are too darn expensive to treat the whole office! Office. Job. Paycheck. WWID moment. (What Would I Do?)

Here I am complaining about the unemployment benefits extension to three years, which is no longer unemployment but crosses over into welfare, and wondering if the job that supports this household becomes non-existent, will I be willing to live off of unemployment? If so, for the entire three years? Would I go on food stamps? For three years? Medicaid? Take the free phone? Or will I ‘just say no” and dumpster dive for groceries and make the rounds to the local church food pantries? Will I volunteer in community programs as my “giving back” to justify accepting all the bennies I am receiving?

Just how far will I go to live my present opinion. I am curious how we translate all this when we are faced with hunger, cold, and desolation.

Too much thinking; should have paid the electric bill late, bought the donuts, and enjoyed the sugar buzz.

237 Responses to Thursday Open Forum – December 9, 2010

  1. yomotley says:

    Compliments of WaltzingMtilda.

    • WaltzingMtilda says:

      Hee hee!!!

      Thanks for posting this…even after your nice e-mail I was on the fence. I seriously cannot get enough of this video.

      I linked this on a friends FB and someone replied: “Foamy can have his Christmas as long as we can build a mosque wherever we want.” Really???? You think the GZM is about religion? So, I beat him with the Baby Jesus.

      • sundancecracker says:

        OK…. Gotta admit.. “Hello, my name is Sundance, and I found this really funny”…. (crowd responds) “Hi Sundance”..

        I laughed my butt off. Sumpin bout seeing a little snarky cartoon dude sayin out loud the stuff I think about the PC Christmas crowd is just plain funny. https://i0.wp.com/planetsmilies.net/tongue-smiley-8856.gif https://i0.wp.com/planetsmilies.net/tongue-smiley-8855.gif

    • sundancecracker says:

      Don’t forget to support this request (if possible) from Library Countess.

      ————————————-

      From a friend … if you’re inclined to do this, she’d be very grateful.

      “Hi everyone.

      I am asking everyone that receives this e-mail to write ONE letter or send ONE card to my son. Billy, while he is in Afghanistan. You don’t have to write a long letter, just a short one to let him know that there are people who know him and some that don’t, AND they care that he is there serving his country.

      Please pass this on to everyone in your e-mail book, or facebook (which I still have not figured out how to work)! Cut and past the message and keep it going. Ask them to send to all the people on their e-mail lists. I will love to report back how many cards/letters this one request will produce.

      Please do not answer my e-mail back, just send it to everyone and mail your letter/card!

      Thanks, I really appreciate it and Billy will too. He can also share the letters/cards with this other Marines.

      Love ya

      Mac, Mary Ann, Lumpy (whichever you know me by) Freeman

      MSGT EASTON, WILLIAM

      ALPHA CO

      3D LAR BN

      UNIT 41695

      FPO AP 96427-1695

      ——————————————————-

      HoneyTrail Crew, lets take this to a new level and show “Billy” how much we appreciate his service. Get those cards, notes, letters etc etc. in the mail en masse. Include “With Love From the Trail” in your salutation.

      …..Sundance

  2. Good morning Honies!

    Pigford gets ‘bigger’ on Breitbart’s Big Government…Matt Drudge why are you NOT picking up the white courtesy phone???

    Dan Riehl, writing for Big Government adds this plausible argument/explanation…Barky is using Pigford Reparation Monies TO PAY HIS CAMPAIGN DEBTS:

    http://biggovernment.com/driehl/2010/12/08/obama-using-pigford-cash-to-pay-campaign-debts/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+BigGovernment+(Big+Government)

    I keep thinking, just like the ACORN stings this WILL go main (or main cyber–Drudge!) but alas…there is a seeming ‘black out’ (props to the first one who calls me RAAAACIST)…

  3. Patriot Dreamer says:

    Stan Freberg’s Nuttin’ for Christmas

    • Bijou says:

      Patriot Dreamer…Wow! Where did you ever find that?

      As I was listening to it, I realized that I knew it from long, long ago.

      What a strange recollection.

      (Stan Freberg was a genius in the Advertising biz. His success stories are legendary.)

    • Thomas Hooker says:

      He was depraved on account of he was deprived.

  4. GracieD says:

    I posted this earlier on Wednesday’s Open Forum, thought I should move it here.

    Okay y’all, it is time to start digging up dirt on everyone who had anything to do with this. Yes, I know, my Louisiana roots are showing. It is time to figure out who exactly was involved in this, and make them pay. We have to make them pay in the way that they most understand….AT THE POLLS, and in the way that will make them public pariahs for the rest of time. I am starting with the BIG sites, taking names, and hopefully finding a way to make them pay for their crimes; and make no mistake, this is a crime! I am not advicating anything illegal here, I am all for extracting retribution from those who have intentionally wronged We the People of the United States! I would be most interested in your thoughts fellow Honeys, so don’t hold back. Is it time to play dirty? How dirty should we play? When I say “dirty” I absolutely do not mean illegal. I simply ask how far y’all think we should take this?

  5. zmalfoy says:

    Mornin’ Y’all!

    I saw this, and immediately thought of Itooktheredpill:

    http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2010/12/08/os-outfielder-luke-scott/

    Oriole’s outfielder Question’s Obama’s Birthplace

    Not like most celebrities or athletes know crap about much besides their profession, usually, but it’s nice to see the commentary going in the other direction now and then.

    • zm, I read over on FR that the Orioles have already come out and issued a statement that Scott ‘speaks only for himself and his opinions and not those of the Baltimore Orioles.’ I know it was ‘expected’ but the fervor (‘must NOT insult our Dear Leader’) was what caught my eye. How many pro athletes dissed GWB and their organizations never made a statement?

      • PhillyCon says:

        Or what about the AZ law, and how certain sport organizations supported a boycott of that state? Statist Libs all of them, they have made all their money, so there’s no need for upward mobility. So, a million or 2 in taxes? No biggie? (Warren Buffet anyone?)

      • zmalfoy says:

        Well, yes, exactly.

        Keep in mind, too, that this is the People’s Republik of Marylandistan. I love this place, except for the [I-95] people , yanno? *rolls eyes*.

    • WaltzingMtilda says:

      What the hell is a Baltimore Oriole?

      • Patriot Dreamer says:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_oriole

        Kind of weird that it’s a baseball mascot, but *shrugs*

      • WaltzingMtilda says:

        Joking aside, I always love it when people in the public eye have the stones to express political opinions that are contrary to the opinions that most people in the sports/entertainment industry parrot. Good for him…how long until they boot him for raaaaacism???

        Who knew Baltimore still had a baseball team…didn’t it move to Indianapolis?

      • One of the prettiest birds in the world, especially in bright sunshine. And yes, it is weird that there’s a baseball teamed by that name. Wouldn’t it be cool if they wore orange and black uniforms?

        • Pat P says:

          Hi Frankly! Good to see you. You haven’t been around as much the last day or so. Is everything okay?

          • My dad is doing poorly. He’s weaker, but still occasionally combative, very confused, and fell out of bed this morning before the sun was up. I fed him in bed for the first time yesterday, although at supper he was able to get up and sit at the table. It is very draining to take care of this frequently-angry stranger who used to be my “Daddy”. I don’t have much conversation left in me, most days, although whenever I can, I read what others have written written.

            And, in the interests of full disclosure, as more HB people arrive, I not only want to avoid the possibility of another Aussie-type confrontation, but don’t see any need in scaring anybody off before they even have a chance to settle in. I SO did not see that coming with Aussie; I really don’t want to have it happen again. Especially right now.

            • I guess, since “others have written written”, I should have said I “read read.” I don’t think my brain has thawed out from walking the dogs.

            • Kristi says:

              I am sorry your dad and you are going through this.

              We have your back with the haters.

            • Thanks, Kristi. I have no doubt that people would have my back, if necessary. That’s already been amply proven. But doing so would bring unpleasantness to the board. That whole “discretion is the better part of valor” stuff comes into play for me…and even if I felt like fighting with everyone who gave me a cross-eyed look (or I THOUGHT gave me a cross-eyed look!), there’s my dad. I haven’t disappeared; I’m just temporarily dormant! LOL

            • sundancecracker says:

              FtN, don’t worry about an AuSSie type confrontation here. Ain’t never gonna happen…..

              Sorry to hear about your Dad. Really sorry. Prayers and best wishes.

            • You and your “daddy” will be in my prayers Susan. I am going thru something similar with my 89 yr old dad. He is still able to feed himself but is incontinent and uncooperative. Keeps trying to take himself to the bathroom and has been falling. Argues with everyone…etc. DD in FL is angry because I canceled plans to spend Christmas due to finances, etc. Seems like “it’s all my fault” . This time of year has always been difficult for me and just want to stay in bed with the covers over my head. Got.to.get.better!

            • Menagerie says:

              I will be saying prayers for you and your dad. Hope things go peacefully for you, and you are able to find some comfort when you stop in here for a break among friends.

              Same for you and your dad housemom. My prayers to you and your family.

              I truly love the Thanksgiving and Christmas season. I always have. I won’t go into details, but I would like to tell you both that I was going through a similar situation with my dad many years ago, and my kids were still pretty young. It was a tough holiday season, and I didn’t have time for my usual preparations, and was too rushed to enjoy most of it. For some reason I went to Midnight Mass alone though we almost always go as a family. It was spur of the moment, and during the mass, I felt Christmas as I never had before. When the bells rang, my heart was filled. I went home at peace and had the most wonderful Christmas of my life. I pray for peace for both of you, for friends, comfort, rest.

            • Pat P says:

              I’m sorry to hear that you dad is doing poorly, and you too, housemom.

              We will do everything we can to prevent any nastiness here, Frankly. I helped take care of my dad (mind wasn’t good) and mom (mind was okay), so I know that you don’t need any more aggravation in your life, right now.

              I was concerned that we hadn’t heard from you, and I am sorry that it is for such a sad reason.

            • Library Countess says:

              FTN, thanks for the update on your dad. It reminds me of feeding my dad in ICU … I wondered at the time how he must feel, at his age (84), being fed by his daughter who he fed many years before. The Lord’s blessings upon you and your family as you honor your dad.

            • EZBurns says:

              Taking care of someone in there last days is a test of character. I’ve done it with a Grandfather, Father, Aunt, Husband. I wish I had magic words, but I don’t— It’s hard, but you will have no regrets, and there is a dignity and safety you’re giving them that no one else can.

            • Auntie Lib says:

              God love you and bless you for the many gifts you are giving your dad at this point in his life.

              Hang in there girlfriend! Wish we were closer – I’m learning about the Presbyterian sacrament of “casseroles” – and I would love to bring something hot and homemade over for your supper. (I’m a recovering Catholic, but my BFF here is Presby and – holy smokes! – whenever anybody has any kind of trouble – out comes the casserole brigade. It makes so much sense to me to accompany a good prayer with a side of something from the oven.)

              Many prayers and good thoughts coming your way!

            • Thank you all for your kind words. My dad is 95. He was a missionary teacher, and I adored him, even though I sure got a lot of spankings. (It couldn’t have been anything I did, could it?) The hospice people were here today (wonderful, wonderful hospice people!!!!!!!!). He’s been in hospice almost 6 months; if he lives until January 5th, he’ll have to be recertified. I’m not convinced, myself, that he will.

              However, for a man whose heart was so bad in April that the MD said he didn’t know why he wasn’t already dead, he’s managed to go quite a long ways! Did I mention how wonderful the hospice people are? 8-)

            • Integrity1st says:

              Frankley! I know you said you know we have your back, but still that you stayed quiet for those reasons devastates me. There is so much pain out there, (been at a funeral all day for a GREAT, GREAT, GREAT man and friend, and he was only 59), that at least know when you come in here we are all your friends and all care about you. Let this/us be your comfort zone. Please?

              PS I started smiling with Motley’s first post, and then again , and again from there. Not you?

            • zmalfoy says:

              Frankly,

              I’m just getting caught up. Others have said what I would say already, so I’ll only add that I’ve scribbled your name in the little book I carry all my prayer intentions in. Because I’ve crappy memory, so I cheat with the little book.

        • zmalfoy says:

          Used to be. There’s a lot of white in the uniform now, but the team colors are black and orange.

          • I haven’t paid attention to baseball since the Milwaukee Braves moved to Atlanta, and when I did pay attention, it was all focused on the Milwaukee Braves…so I never saw the black-and-orange stuff, but at least it makes their name make some sense. Which is more than you can say for the names of SOME sports teams!

    • I saw this, and immediately thought of Itooktheredpill:

      Thank you for thinking of me :-)

      I followed the link and clicked on the link for “read more” which took me to:

      http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Answer-Man-Luke-Scott-talks-Nugent-hunting-and?urn=mlb-292970

      It’s worth looking at that link and seeing how the editor basically mocks Luke Scott by including the .JPG image of the supposedly authentic Obama COLB.

      The truth is that the State of Hawaii has NEVER claimed that that COLB is authentic.

      The truth is that no member of Congress ever inspected a physical document with a raised seal.

      The truth is that you could not submit a .JPG image of a COLB as documentary evidence to prove employment eligibility on an I-9 Form. If a JPG is not acceptable for a job at McDonald’s, why is a JPG acceptable for President of the United States?

      The truth is that the press has deliberately lied, on multiple occasions, about what Dr. Fukino said in her 2 News Releases.

      The truth is that even former Governor Lingle did not accurately state what was contained in Dr. Fukino’s October 31, 2008 News Release. Lingle claimed it said things that it absolutely did not say. That’s easy to check. CNN, however, chose to creatively edit Governor Lingle’s words in order to cover up the glaring error, and CNN lied about what Lingle said.

      I seek two things on this issue:

      1) Release of an original, initial birth certificate from the State of Hawaii, under seal, directly to members of Congress.

      2) Debate and resolution, either by both houses of Congress or by a Supreme Court ruling, of whether or not someone born a foreign subject/citizen can also be considered a “natural born citizen” of the United States.

      Obama has never released his birth certificate to Congress, and neither the Congress nor the Supreme Court has addressed the issue of “natural born citizen” with respect to the fact that Obama’s own web site admitted that he was born a British subject. The Senate did discuss “natural born citizen” with respect to John McCain, but never with respect to Barack Obama.

      Yes, I get animated about this issue because it’s all been a huge shell game.

        • Ad rem says:

          Wow….if they won’t read the 2,000 plus pages in a Health Bill that’s sitting right in their laps, it’s going to be a heck of a lot harder to make these lazy b-tards hunt down and read a well hidden birth cirtificate. Treasonous bunch the lot!

        • Integrity1st says:

          Forgive me for relating everything I am currently going through to everything else – – – like this. I spent the last ten years trying to stop a corrupt cop and paid a very hefty price, beyond my liberty, home, and more. All the while I felt like I was in the middle of the ocean screaming into a tin can even though reality was I was going to every form of government that should have wanted to stop him, and didn’t care. Only two weeks ago I stood in line for coffee just so I could publicly say to his face that he belonged behind bars, and at that time he was a powerful police chief with no worry in the world except how he was going to shut me up next.

          Two days ago they removed his gun and badge, TODAY HE WAS SCHEDULED TO GO TO JAIL. (and based on the scope of this it will be for a long, long time with little to no possibility he can skirt these charges). It is everything I asked to happen, everything that should happen, and nothing I realistically saw happening, and it’s really really happening. Only a week ago it was a pipe dream.

          My point is, PLEASE keep doing what you’re doing as you’re amazed that nothing appears to be happening. LET’s NEVER GIVE UP, and just keep chipping away at the truth til the end. My God, only days ago I was suicidal and defeated, and I’m quite sure my friend who just passed made it his first order of business up there. Not much else can explain the timing . . . and the fact that the continuation of the article that was front page news was on the back of my friend’s obituary.

          People might also be interested in knowing that our friendship originated because we were both harassed and abused by this police officer who continued to go higher up the ranks throughout. Yes Virginia, there really is a Santa Claus, and yes all, there really is a GOD.

          Scuse the ramble. Hope you see the relevance.

          PS How do you do those ‘something’ shots to preserve a web page that is about to be scrubbed????? THIS ONE:

          http://www.salisburypolice.com/personnel.html

          • GracieD says:

            “ALT” + “PRTSC” then open a blank document/email (can save as draft) and paste.

            Do you want me to email it to you?

            Girlfriend, God is always right on time!

          • WeeWeed says:

            I think you need to write a little bit about it every night (share, of course!!) and save it so that you’ll have the whole story from beginning to hopefully a good ending. It will be good for you to vent, and I’m just nosy and want to help! :) And, exposing evil bastids is always a good thing, say I.

            • Integrity1st says:

              I’ve been writing and writing, including in a Federal lawsuit I filed- – – hundreds of pages, for years and years. Actually, after my first arrest, my father was in such disbelief, he made me fill him in of all that had gone before, and he was up to 192 pages BEFORE I went to prison. Then we just became paralysed and concentrated all our efforts on my defense. Once all was dismissed and I filed my Federal Lawsuit, hell broke loose and it got worse, and worse, and worse. So I guess there is that to catch up on but yikes.

              Still going on, because all the other players have to still cover for their misdeeds, so I am hardly out of the woods, with another court date just before Christmas (all stemming from this guy’s agenda), but now the judges and prosecutors want their revenge on me because I did not take their injustice and go away, but they did bankrupt us in the process. They have absolute immunity so they can do whatever they want . . . to any of us, by the way.

              Still, guns and badges removed, and behind bars was my mantra – – – for him, first and foremost, and it’s actually happening . . . but there are many others involved, and many more to go, and the judges are all untouchable.

              I thought this would just be the beginning, and there would be a ripple effect, but since what he is supposedly being taken down for – – – child trafficing ring, and selling drugs from his cruiser, I’m guessing they won’t broaden their scope and go after ALL the other stuff because they have such big ones to make a case. Still, I shall pray for a huge overflow with lots more going down.

              Everyone should become familiar with Operation Greylord http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-chicagodays-greylord-story,0,4025843.story

              I say that because people simply do not know how bad the system is until it happens to them. I didn’t. I thought things like innocent people getting destroyed would be the rare event. I now know it is routine, and for many, far worse than my scenario. That’s why I get so hopeless – often.

              I have to tell you though, this guy was a limelight seeker, first and foremost. So when I saw him being interviewed by Katie Courac as the grieving father of a son who died of a drug overdose, those in the know, knew he was reeling in the attention, and as an undercover drug enforcement officer who was corrupt, he, more than anyone could have helped his son but was featured as “It can happen to anyone”. Yes it can, but in this instance, it had far more to do with HIM. UGH, it takes sooooooo long for justice to come along, if it ever does, and there’s so many more like him out there abusing people who will not stand up to it, (and probably fare a lot better than I did as a result).

          • Integrity1st,

            Thank you for sharing that, and thank you for putting Integrity 1st! I thank God that you have had victory and that Justice has finally been served!

            GracieD is correct about how to capture a “screen shot”, but I prefer to archive the entire page using webcitation.org. I just did that for you…

            WebCite® archiving request processed

            Thank you for your submission. Your request to archive the content of

            http://www.salisburypolice.com/personnel.html

            has been entered into the archival queue. An archive of this page should shortly be available at

            http://www.webcitation.org/5usEC2UAS

          • Shalini says:

            Integrity1st,

            There’s this Psalm just for you.

            Hear me, LORD, my plea is just;

            listen to my cry.

            Hear my prayer—

            it does not rise from deceitful lips.

            2 Let my vindication come from you;

            may your eyes see what is right.

            That was Psalm 17 but I love Psalm 27 more. So here you go:

            1 The LORD is my light and my salvation—

            whom shall I fear?

            The LORD is the stronghold of my life—

            of whom shall I be afraid?

            2 When the wicked advance against me

            to devour me,

            it is my enemies and my foes

            who will stumble and fall.

            3 Though an army besiege me,

            my heart will not fear;

            though war break out against me,

            even then I will be confident.

  6. Patriot Dreamer says:

    As for the unemployment “deal”, my understanding is that 99 weeks is still the maximum. The 13 months extension has to do with a temporary extension of unemployment benefits. Congress won’t have to deal with it again for 13 months, but people who are unemployed cannot get more than 99 weeks in benefits.

    Somebody please correct me if I’m wrong.

    • Auntie Lib says:

      I’ve heard something like this too, but I can’t find ANYTHING that really explains what the extension is and/or isn’t. Frustrating to say the least…

      Mornin’ Honeys!

      • Patriot Dreamer says:

      • yomotley says:

        I have heard both ways. DH and I were discussing which way it was, which led us to blowing smoke and saying, “Shoot, we could get into have three years of fall-out coverage. It would be great to not have to go into work and the stress everyday. Three years of a break from this responsibility thing would be mighty fine.” So, even though it appears to still be 99 weeks (though some are reporting different) it got us thinking. Hmm. Were we just joking around?

        • emmajeri1010 says:

          I thought Rush was on to something yesterday: he asked when a retirement plan for the unemployed was going to be put forward. It’s just not fair that they should on unemployment for 30-40 years and have nothing to show for it. And that would be, of course, in additional to Social Security for the unemployed. There needs to be a program providing for payments into Social Security on their behalf since they can’t possible do it since they’re not working, and that’s just not fair.

          • Menagerie says:

            Some democrat somewhere thinks this is a good idea.

            • Wraith says:

              This is the whole problem: we satirize their stupid ideas, they take the satire seriously, and we spin ever further into Bizarro World. [url=http://planetsmilies.net][img]http://planetsmilies.net/shocked-smiley-9450.gif[/img][/url]

          • Ad rem says:

            Not to mention….the 40% increase in food stamp usage. They’re trying to get college kids hooked on them now!

      • Integrity1st says:

        WOW, that’s really good news cause it makes so much more sense. I certainly have not heard this, so if and when verified, please post.

    • Library Countess says:

      This is correct… 99 weeks is still the maximum. Apparently what the 13 months does is allow this 99-week maximum to continue until the end of 2011. Otherwise it would revert back to what it used to be (26 weeks?)

    • PhillyCon says:

      PD:

      You are right, its not beyond 99 weeks. Michelle Malkin and Rush talked about this, if I find the MM link, I’ll post it.

    • Richdet says:

      Gabriel Malor did a posting at Ace of Spades late Tuesday afternoon, addressing the confusion over this issue. It is posted at ace.mu.nu under the heading “About the Unemployment Insurance Extension.”

    • PhillyCon says:

      From Michelle Malkin:

      “One important point of clarification: The extra 13 months will not be tacked on to the existing 99 weeks’ package. Rather, the current proposal would extend eligibility for this basket of benefits until the end of 2011. (See Gabriel Malor at Ace of Spades for an explanation.) For the business owners footing the bill, the distinction makes little difference. Politicians pontificate. Employers pay. And you can bet come December 2011, they will extend this bottomless government “compassion” at others’ expense all over again.”

      • sundancecracker says:

        This really needs more media reporting for clarification. OK so if the 13 month extension does not pertain to extension of the actual payment period, then why are the liberal left claiming it saved those 99′ers that have exhausted their 99 weeks? Now I’m lost.

        Also, this actually hits business harder than a tax increase. Paying unemployment insurance mandates is not cheap even if you have never laid anyone off… EVER. You still pay the same rate as the general pool participant. Unemployment Insurance costs went up 44% this year so far. That hits a business bottom line purty quick.

    • valentinoswife says:

      That is correct – 99 weeks max! There has been a gross misunderstanding of that – thanks!

    • Grayson needs no assistance in making an a$$ of himself. He is the poster child for the uber left liberal progressive, and he is gone….

      I wonder if he is going to MediaSh!tNoBodyCaresAbout?

  7. Bijou says:

    Mornin’, Honeys!

    Haven’t had coffee yet, so this will be a short ‘drive-by’ post.

    This was in the morning’s email from my dear Auntie Jean and I thought it was worth sharing.

    ‘Twas the night before Christmas & out on the ranch

    The pond was froze over & so was the branch.

    The snow was piled up belly-deep to a mule.

    The kids were all home on vacation from school,

    And happier young folks you never did see…

    Just all sprawled around a-watchin’ TV.

    Then suddenly, some time around 8 o’clock,

    There came a surprise that gave them a shock!

    The power went off, the TV went dead!

    When Grandpa came in from out in the shed

    With an armload of wood, the house was all dark.

    “Just what I expected,” they heard him remark.

    “Them power line wires must be down from the snow.

    Seems sorter like times on the ranch long ago.”

    “I’ll hunt up some candles,” said Mom. “With their light,

    And the fireplace, I reckon we’ll make out all right.”

    The teen-agers all seemed enveloped in gloom.

    Then Grandpa came back from a trip to his room,

    Uncased his old fiddle & started to play

    That old Christmas song about bells on a sleigh.

    Mom started to sing, & 1st thing they knew

    Both Pop & the kids were all singing it, too.

    They sang Christmas carols, they sang “Holy Night,”

    Their eyes all a-shine in the ruddy firelight.

    They played some charades Mom recalled from her youth,

    And Pop read a passage from God’s Book of Truth.

    They stayed up till midnight-and, would you believe,

    The youngsters agreed ’twas a fine Christmas Eve.

    Grandpa rose early, some time before dawn;

    And when the kids wakened, the power was on..

    “The power company sure got the line repaired quick,”

    Said Grandpa – & no one suspected his trick.

    Last night, for the sake of some old-fashioned fun,

    He had pulled the main switch – the old Son-of-a-Gun!

    -anonymous

    • chrissythehyphenated says:

      I love it! LOL

      Grandpa is my kinda guy. I had my girls going batty for YEARS trying to figure out how I ALWAYS knew when they’d left the light on in the toy room even though it was impossible to tell without going down there and I never had.

      [The toy room was under the kitchen. It had recessed “can” lights in the ceiling that made hot spots on the kitchen floor.]

      • Bijou says:

        Hi, Chrissy! Great story about the lights on in the toy room.

        Moms DO have magical powers…and they NEED them. LOL!

        • violet says:

          I love that story, Chrissie! When my middle daughter was little, I had her convinced that I really did have eyes in the back of my head. I had forbidden her to go into the bathroom medicine cabinet — not because there was anything dangerous in it (mostly just shampoos and lotions and things), but because it was directly over the toilet, and I didn’t want her climbing onto the toilet, slipping and falling and getting a concussion. One day I was in the laundry room, when all of sudden my little girl ran into the room and started frantically washing her hands. I smelled something funny and asked her if she had been getting into the medicine cabinet. She looked at me in astonishment and asked, “How did you know?” I didn’t tell her I knew because I could smell Preparation H (which is what she was trying to clean off her hands) and that there was only one place in the house where she could have gotten that. I just let her think I had super powers.

  8. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’, Honeys! This is funny….except, it isn’t…. (heads for coffee pot..)

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/12/stella_pauls_top_ten_governmen.html

  9. Patriot Dreamer says:

    Are any of you great online shoppers? I’m having trouble finding a gift for a friend. She likes to drink tea, and I’m trying to find something nice but not too expensive. Maybe $30 or less? If any of you could help, I’d be most appreciative!

  10. JRD says:

    The WikiLeaks Vindication of George W. Bush

    http://townhall.com/columnists/LarryElder/2010/12/09/the_wikileaks_vindication_of_george_w_bush/page/full/

    In 2008, our military shipped out of Iraq — on 37 flights in 3,500 barrels — what even The Associated Press called “the last major remnant of Saddam Hussein’s nuclear program”: 550 metric tons of the supposedly nonexistent yellowcake.

    • chrissythehyphenated says:

      This particular rant of the Left’s always griped me NO END. We have a PHOTO of a RELATIVE standing NEXT to the WMD he FOUND in IRAQ.

      [Wondering if Spammy will grab this what with all the capitals. He loves a nice juicy all caps sandwich. But dang it … I just have such a hard time getting UNriled about unjustified attacks on my kids.]

    • TXMom says:

      Thank you, JRD!

  11. JRD says:

    More GoreBull Warming: Coldest December for 100 years in Great Britain. Check out the FROZEN WATERFALLS! Oh and the socialist government is telling people to clear the snow from the roads by themselves. I guess the Iron Lady’s message is getting through to the Brits, they have finally run out of other people’s money!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1336705/UK-big-freeze-Army-standby-coldest-December-100-years.html

    • chrissythehyphenated says:

      Oh, that’s a good one for my Gore-Bull albums at Chrissy’s Site Bites …. p-shopping and posting …. okay, it’s up and (since a certain Gremlin grabs my posts if I put in multiple URLs) I moved all three of my Gore-Bull albums to the top.

      One’s on Climate Science, one’s on Climate Politcs, and one is a little video about the History of Climate Alarmism.

      http://community.webshots.com/user/chrissythehyphenated

      • sundancecracker says:

      • Research conducted by award-winning U.S. scientist Nathan Zohner concluded that roughly 86 percent of the population supports a ban on dihydrogen monoxide. Although his results are preliminary, Zohner believes people need to pay closer attention to the information presented to them regarding Dihydrogen Monoxide. He adds that if more people knew the truth about DHMO then studies like the one he conducted would not be necessary.

        A similar study conducted by U.S. researchers Patrick K. McCluskey and Matthew Kulick also found that nearly 90 percent of the citizens participating in their study were willing to sign a petition to support an outright ban on the use of Dihydrogen Monoxide in the United States.

        Consensus! The science is settled!

        The quote above comes from here. It’s a spoof site, made to look like a group that is seriously concerned about DHMO (DiHydrogen MonOxide).

        It really goes to show how a comparison of how the left can spin something as normal as Carbon Dioxide (a gas that humans will always exhale and which plants will always need) into something bad for the environment.

        Our weather isn’t driven by CO2, it’s driven by variations in the sun’s output.

    • emmajeri1010 says:

      why hasn’t Iran been stopped? because somebody somewhere in our government with power and influence doesn’t want them stopped. It is (nearly always…..unfortunately) that simple.

      • Menagerie says:

        Agree. My bet is on He who is out to destroy America, that would be our president. Deliberately and with malice. I’m beyond damned caring if I sound like a paranoid conspiracy theorist.

    • sundancecracker says:

      Why havn’t we stopped Iran? Same reason we havn’t stopped N. Korea. Oh yeah’ North Korea…. wasn’t there sumpin kinda like important or such going on over there recently? ((((( crickets )))))

  12. Kristi says:

    Geesh… I have been online surfing this morning..

    The left is insane… I am not at all being dramatic either.

    From accusing Palin of not having a hunting license…accusing her of being like Michael Vick….

    Then.. the left saying they want to run an even farther to left candidate against Obama.. they just know America wants even a more liberal loon because that is what they voted for in 08 (of course they missed the Nov 2010 election)

    Then amnesty for illegals and free college for illegals all while Americans pay more.

    Unhinged lunatics. I seriously think they have a mental problem.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Kristi….I saw the Sorkin rant (Palin’s worse than Vick) on iOwntheworld’s site:

      http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=48147

      When will these idiot “celebrities” learn to shut up ? I used to enjoy his work, now I’ll never see another Sorkin project again. It was simply “hate” speech by someone who knows nothing about hunting !

      • Kristi says:

        I know!

        That whole article was so unhinged, looney bin and insane.

      • EZBurns says:

        I dare him to visit a factory farm or slaughterhouse and tell me that the animals there had better lives & deaths than

        the caribou. Holy carp, the left is so out of touch with both life and death.

        Reality is, something eats something else in this world. Our job is to minimize the suffering if we can. Otherwise, it’s

        the real world.

    • chrissythehyphenated says:

      I hear there’s a new book out – “The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness” by Dr. Lyle Rossiter.

      For more than 40 years, Rossiter diagnosed and treated over 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases, both state and federal, as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist retained by numerous public offices, courts and private attorneys. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago. (Chicago! LOL)

      EXCERPT: “The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind,” he says. “When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious.”

      Gosh. A shrink knows liberals are immature. Any self-aware parent who’s endured the Terrible Twos and the Terrible Twos, Part Deux (aka, adolescence) could have told you THAT.

  13. Patriot Dreamer says:

    Guantanamo files may star in next WikiLeaks release

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6B80B620101209

    • chrissythehyphenated says:

      “This week the office of the Director of National Intelligence, the government’s top intelligence official, released statistics showing that one in four of the 598 detainees released from Guantanamo are either suspected or confirmed to have become re-engaged in “terrorist or insurgent activities” after their release.”

      Oh boy.

  14. old crank says:

    Hello, all y’all. AliRose has sought and found another old Buzzer and extended an invitation. So now I – sort of – know. I am so pleased to find you here. You guys always know what’s going on in the world and you have the same reactions that I do. I welcome this! (My own nearest and dearest are blazing liberals, although my brothers, thank God, are not.) And I will say that Kevin, whatever his personality problems, seems to have the same reactions too.

    Though let me say this too – Kevin’s extreme enthusiasms were a bit puzzling. Remember how Pat Brady was just the finest man he knew, and the most trustworthy et etc. right up until he called the Boyz a bunch of fucking faggots? I had to question the estimable Palins after that…could Kevin be blind-sided again?

    I managed to do in my Mac with a bottle of water, and then had to return the replacement Mac for hardware problems, and have been without steady access to a computer for a couple of weeks. I can’t yet bring myself to buy yet another Mac (who knew they could even HAVE hardware problems!) and have been looking at Acers. They look fine, but are just not as fast as the Macs. I find myself thinking, “Life’s too short!” as I sit there waiting. And there’s the money – don’t their old models ever get any cheaper? Anyway, I hope to be able to get here on a regular basis at some point – though I have to go through AliRose’s emailed link to do it at all. Honeytrail.wordpress.com seems to baffle my browser and I get unrelated offerings when I try it.

    Thanks for the invitation. Thanks for starting this site!

    • yomotley says:

      Any computer is A LOT faster if you change the operating system to linux. Very easy to do and more comfortable for Mac user than Windows. I really like Ubuntu10.04 Net Remix, which is for netbooks and works great on my laptop!

      So good to see you! Make sure nothing is capitalized. Or simply bookmark the page to go in your toolbar. (I think people subconsciously put an “s” at the end of honeytrail.)

      http://honeytrail.wordpress.com

      • Ad rem says:

        Mots…you got that right re Linux and Windows. With Linux you don’t have that constant problem of viruses…and it’s faster too. DH mentioned this when I told him you use Ubuntu.

    • Bijou says:

      Old crank, HI and WELCOME! Glad you caught up with us.

      This is now the official ‘place to be’. LOL!

      AliRose has been doing yeoman’s work in rounding up so many old pals.

      I don’t understand what you mean by, ‘I had to question the estimable Palins after that…’ Could you please elaborate on this?

      Also, re your problem getting here…what browser are you using? I’m on a Mac, using Firefox and it’s flawless.

      Speaking of ‘Macs’…you CAN find refurbished ones at great prices. I was going to get one of these myself, but am holding out for a new iMac.

      Here’s just one of many sites:

      http://www.macofalltrades.com/

      • Ad rem says:

        We keep holding out for the next Mac too! The new one’s coming out in February I believe. I tried Safari for a while….but had to come back to Firefox, as always.

    • JRD says:

      old crank, so happy you are here. We love your comments and we have missed you. Thanks to AliRose for finding you. I thought that you were going to get stuck in Limbo.

      • old crank says:

        Y’all are the BEST. Technical advice! Shopping advice! And a warm welcome on a cold day! Bijou, the day Kevin posted the very first paean of praise to Sarah, I had to jump in and ask him, “Do you SWEAR she’s all that…etc.” to which he immediately responded, “Yes, I SWEAR…etc.” Because I heard echoes of similar enthusiastic praise for his good friend, Pat Brady, and was chilled by the recollection of how that turned out. He elaborated convincingly, and I certainly wanted to believe him about Sarah. And indeed Sarah seems to be holding up quite well.

        I am a hopeless skeptic, but I’m getting even warmer about her possible candidacy. Make that “probable candidacy.” I keep comparing her with Ronald Reagan. I did not vote for Reagan in 1980 because I thought he did not have the brains to be president and was just too laid back. Remember how Jimmy Carter, the nuclear engineer, was up working till the small hours every night in the White House? (What did I know? I was young and stupid.) After I had watched Reagan on the job for a while, I remember thinking, Okay now we know – it doesn’t TAKE brains to be president. It takes good sense and leadership. Sarah’s got that. Sarah’s a decent person too, like Reagan. We won’t be hearing revelations about her doing awful stuff years after she leaves the scene.

        Not to say that Sarah doesn’t have brains. But the knock on her is that she’s too dumb for the job. Well, like I say – that’s what people thought about Reagan. True, the man was not a college professor and to that I say, All to the good! The country cannot absorb much more professorial leadership.

        What we need is a way to introduce the real Sarah to those idiotic people (the young and the stupid) who don’t like her voice, can’t distinguish her from Tina Fey, and can’t get over the Katie Couric interview. Where is Dick Morris when you need him….

        • JRD says:

          I don’t get the I don’t like her voice BS. I can’t stand Dumb-0′s voice. And without the teleprompter all we hear out of Dumb-0 is duh, duh, duh. And Dumb-0 isn’t smart. He’s affirmative action smart.

        • AliRose says:

          Oh…I’m having flashbacks, now to the KC interview. That was really painful to watch. I’ll just imagine her giving it another shot and nailing it! That would be karmic justice.

          • MaryJane says:

            AliRose – Sarah *did* nail that KC interview. I read the entire transcript online and she was excellent (and I should have saved it – I bet it’s scrubbed now). Then the station cut and snipped the four-hour interview to its sorry one-hour cousin that was shown on TV. It was truly a lowdown trick.

        • Ad rem says:

          Welcome Old Crank!!!

          Regarding the brains issue….I figure brains is as brains does. Reagan had the down to earth ‘brains’ that get things done and people inspired. Carter was a pedant…no more, no less.

        • Integrity1st says:

          Old Crank, A HUGE WELCOME!!! That AliRose should get a huge raise for finding you.!

          Oh Sarah, Sundance did a fantastic peice that leaves little room for arguement. Check it out.. There’s many things you’ll find worth the read while you’re looking for it ; )

          So good to see you here.

  15. Debra says:

    Can I just say, I love you guys! I don’t contribute much, lack of sleep and my energetic two year old zap all of my brain cells, but I really love reading all of you. It’s warm and cozy with just the right amount of snark. Thanks so much for this resting place.

    • yomotley says:

      Yes you can say that! We love your sleep-deprived, zapped brain cells; your presence is appreciated and savored. Your avatar is a pic-me-upper. (and don’t worry, those brain cells are not lost forever; eventually you end up smarter than when you started living on the edge — of sleep that is.)

    • Shalini says:

      What she said. Except I don’t have an ‘energetic two year old to zap all of my brain cells’ and I am actually pretty excited that my two year nephew will be here come Dec 30th.

      I don’t even have the energy to say how much I love it here (I guess, I just did. Err… whatever.) but I do and I want all of you to know it. I don’t know why but even the church choir visiting us to sing Christmas carols and Santa doing the Twist hasn’t cheered me up as much as it should have! Sigh!

      But yeah, I love it here and thank you all so much for that. Oh and TNWahm, Susan, Housemom and both the Kristis, you and your loved ones are in my prayers. God is THE best and He is our strength when we feel we don’t have it in us.

      Now I am off to finish off that Mocha Brownie Fudge Sundae in my freezer. And my brother is away for the weekend which means I get all of it. Oh the things I have to do!

    • JRD says:

      We love you too!

    • violet says:

      Hi Debra…

      Two-year-olds will do that to you. Whenever I wonder what happened to all my brain cells, to say nothing of my once-good looks, I need look no farther than my four smart good-looking kids to see where it all went.

      p.s. I LOVE your avatar. :-)

  16. emmajeri1010 says:

    There’s a great article on American Thinker this morning about Wikileaks and Cyberwarfare…..it confirms your first suspicions, on one hand, but it always draws some “panic boundaries” about how stupid Assange actually is, and thus inherently limited. None of that, of course, takes into account the apparent incompetence or disinterest on the part of our Currently Elected Authorities in stopping him. I’m sure they will find some way to get something done in this crisis, too, that they couldn’t have done otherwise.

    Sorry I didn’t provide a standard link. I still don’t understand how to do that. (I truly do get confused by elementary software issues [in learning new things] and am not putting myself down when I say that. I stopped worry about “why” a long time ago!….)

  17. butchcracker says:

    Ohhhh gals!! Then there is hope! At 6,8 and 12 thinking me brain cells are lost forever(along with a few other parts,but that’s another convo) and ever!!!!!

    Debra,hang in…the EXHAUSTING,ALL CONSUMING,DRAINING,yet EVER SO WONDEROUS 2′S only last a few years!!! HeHeHe…best years though…

    That said,off to prep for the wee aliens arrival back to the pod!

    Eat a donut…..

    Blessings to all..

    Watch Foamy again!!!!

    LOVING THE FOAMY!!!!

    gonna drive Sundance nuts playing it sooo many times!!! lol..lol…

    • yomotley says:

      You have just gotta watch some of the other foamy’s. There is one on being fat that really had me going. I am a Foamy Fan! (some of the graphics are not a sweet little squirrel; can’t say you weren’t warned. And be sure you pee BEFORE watching some of these!)

    • Ad rem says:

      It’s not a ‘drive’ Butch….it’s a short putt! ;-)

  18. chrissythehyphenated says:

    I was reading Letter 15 in C.S. Lewis’ Screwtape Letters last night and want to recommend it to you. Boy howdy, doesn’t it ever describe Progressives to a T.

    Recall that Screwtape is a demon writing to a junior tempter in the field: “The Future is, of all things, the thing least like eternity. It is the most completely temporal part of time – for the Past is frozen and no longer flows, and the Present is all lit up with eternal rays. Hence the encouragement we have given to all those schemes of thought such as Creative Evolution, Scientific Humanism, or Communism, which fix men’s affections on the Future. … We want a man hag-ridden by the Future – haunted by visions of an imminent heaven or hell upon earth – ready to break the Enemy’s commands in the present if by so doing we make him think he can attain the one or avert the other – dependent for his faith on the success or failure of schemes whose end he will not live to see. We want a whole race perpetually in pursuit of the rainbow’s end, never honest, nor kind, nor happy now, but always using as mere fuel wherewith to heap the altar of the future with every real gift which is offered them in the Present.”

    • JRD says:

      I love CS Lewis. Thanks, I’ll read Letter 15 again. You’ve whet my appetite.

    • MaryJane says:

      Oooh boy, Chrissy, does this not say it all:

      ” We want a whole race perpetually in pursuit of the rainbow’s end, never honest, nor kind, nor happy now, but always using as mere fuel wherewith to heap the altar of the future with every real gift which is offered them in the Present.”

  19. chrissythehyphenated says:

    Okay … the Spam Gremlin clearly remembers me from my days as tooth cleaner. Dang. I wrote a nice post. No URLs or bad words or nothing. It went into cyberhell … you know, where “sending” just never ends? So I stopped it and waited a while, then tried to resend.

    And wouldyoubelieve? It told me … “You already said this.” No. I did not. You wouldn’t let me, you ….. sorry. Language. ::deepbreath:: My COMMENT, Spammy Dearest, is … or what … still SITTING in the Comment box. Not posted. Not even sent to the freaking spam filter.

    Is this the WordPress equivalent of standing in line to get searched by Two by Two Hands of Blue? [Wondering who will get the obscure scifi cult reference I just threw in there for fun … ]

  20. chrissythehyphenated says:

    Okay so ….NOW Spammy puts up my comment about Screwtape. NOW that I’ve griped about it. He probably remembers from past encounters that I have a niece who is a lawyer and has real lawyerly looking letterhead to write scary letters on. Harumph.

    That’ll learn him. Cesar would be so proud. Alpha Pack Leader Me ::grrrr::

  21. PhillyCon says:

    Guys:

    A good run down of why DeMint’s position is the principled one. Also, note the “payroll tax deduction” was Obama’s idea, and its a Keynesian one.

    Is DeMint Crazy to Oppose Obama/GOP Tax Cut Deal-No:

    http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/12/07/is-demint-crazy-to-oppose-obama-gop-tax-deal-no/

  22. Bijou says:

    This is a wonderful story about one person’s generous act of kindness during the Great Depression, and how it affected generations.

    It’s a long read but I promise, it’s worth it.

    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/A-Yuletide-Gift-of-Kindness.html

  23. Thomas Hooker says:

    Did you know North America has the potential for energy independence via natural gas?

    Interesting article:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/12/un_report_us_can_quickly_becom.html

    Apparently Soros has his fingers in this as well – follow the link in the article to “Cheap Natural Gas and Its Democrat Enemies.”

    • Ad rem says:

      I figure this is why the government’s been taking over so much private land these last ten years. It blew me away to hear the they own 75% of the land in Utah! They take it over…give it sanctuary status….can’t be mined or drilled.

  24. Jennifer H says:

    Sarah Palin will be traveling to England and Isreal next year…..Our two greatest allies weeee :)

    http://cubachi.com/2010/12/09/a-trip-to-england-and-israel-yup-palin-is-running/

  25. violet says:

    For AFinch: You asked me a question on Dec. 1 open forum, which I somehow missed seeing, and I answered it about a week late, and I’m wondering if you saw my answer.

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